Underworld !!!

[Jesse321]

OKAY I"M PISSED .... take a look at this trailer for the new movie underworld and tell me that its not a TOTAL RIP-OFF of BOP (minus the vampires) !!

Right down to the freaking MOVIE POSTER !!


WTF !!

http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/underworld/low.html



:fume:

[Sxygrrl Huntress]

Holy Sh*t!!! What the hell is that about???

Well, it's nice to know that BOP was so appreciated that they made a movie about it... sorta. What the hell???!!!

Nice movie poster... funny, I feel like I've seen it someplace before. Oh that's right, I DID!!! On my Birds Of Prey wall!

[HUNTER]

i agree when i saw the poster i could not help but think of the huntress

[Jesse321]

Okay ... at least I know its not me .. I'm not crazy .. at least not yet anyway ... I COULDN'T beleive this when I saw it on Dark Horizons .. what a TOTAL RIP OFF !!!

[jaguarin]

We must sends letters to said that it's a copy!!... Her coat, the first shot to her eye... the style...
Where? to that web page or to who? A SCI-Fi magazien, wizard magazine? WB? :fume:

[Sxygrrl Huntress]

Don't forget the drop from the 5 story building...

[jaguarin]

Sorry... what's that?

[Sxygrrl Huntress]

The building that she jumped off of and landed on the ground. 5 stories means the building is 5 floors tall. That is the drop that Huntress always does in BOP.

[msugirl85]

hey that's my b-day!!! i'll be 18

*sings*


Go, go, go shawty
It's your birthday
We gon' party like it's yo birthday
We gon' sip cherry kool-aid like it's your birthday


oops sorry off topic. come on msu back on topic. yea i see the similarites seeping through.

[hb695]

Originally posted by Jesse321
OKAY I"M PISSED .... take a look at this trailer for the new movie underworld and tell me that its not a TOTAL RIP-OFF of BOP (minus the vampires) !!

Right down to the freaking MOVIE POSTER !!



:fume: THOSE #$%@!$#

[Gothic Knight]

:eek: what the f%#$ is this.:fume: what a rip off:fume:

[DBZ_EXP]

total rip, the f^(%, off.

[Kea]

What the....!?!?!?!
I'd rather have a Bop movie and look at my Bop poster then that! Umm give me Huntress any day!
All that's missing is the gargoyle! (Oh its from Sony!)

Also see
http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/underworld/

[SevenSlave]

According to its listing in IMDB (http://us.imdb.com/Details?0320691), it's being produced by Sony Screen Gems.

[Kea]

Well according to the link Liz provided the main characters name is Selene.

[jaguarin]

Selene? Helena? Long black coat, poster, short hair, close-up to her eye, jump buildings, kind of city, night...

Well, analyzing all those elements, nop, I don't think is a copy...



IS A ROBBERY!!!! :fume:

[Sxygrrl Huntress]

I'm sorry. I can't help but laugh at this entire thread. First it is a complete joke that they are making such an obvious rip off, then to reading everyone's symbols instead of text (poor Jag is going to have a hard time translating that :D) and now to learn the lead character is Selene...

LMAO!!!

I can't decide if they were trying to copy Helena or Selina...

[jaguarin]

Don't worry SGH bad words have an international meaning, is the most easy to translate :D

This thing make us feel angry... Shows how another company could see the potential of BOP... the problems is that just stole the idea...

[DBZ_EXP]

Selina was what popped into my head, no the other one.

[Jesse321]

For anyone who may or may not know ... Selina is Catwoman's real name ... gee just another coinsidence I guess .....

(cough ...bulls**t ...cough)

My guess would be they are trying to copy both.

We should send this to T/R ... this just REAKS of copyright infringement.

[SevenSlave]

How about Warner Bros. ? Or DC Comics?

It's THEIR baby too.

[StoyBoy720]

That's totally insane.

But one question: When did Underworld go into production? Could have technically started before BOP aired or had material sent out, especially since it seems to be a decent special effects film.

Not that I'm giving it an excuse because they did basically take the main elements and style of BOP and gave it a budget. Especially the main website for the film, with "Selene's" cat-like crouching. Hmmmm....

Maybe we could show that to Barry Meyer/Bonnie Hammer. It shows the BOP made a bigger impact than we thought it was. Immitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Anyone feel like rubbing it in to Jordan Levin while we're at it? lol

[Gothic Knight]

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip ooooooooooooooffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

[hb695]

Originally posted by SevenSlave
Or DC Comics?

It's THEIR baby too. We should let Paul Levitz know,too.

[Rad]

This is soooo unfair! Not only are they seemingly copying BoP, I was just going to write a story called underworld...so much for that. Back to the drawing board...#$$^*^*$^@#%#*

[SevenSlave]

^ You can still write your "Underworld" story (Titles per se cannot be copyrighted).

[AshDinaRachLvr]

Originally posted by Jesse321
For anyone who may or may not know ... Selina is Catwoman's real name ... gee just another coinsidence I guess .....

(cough ...bulls**t ...cough)

My guess would be they are trying to copy both.

We should send this to T/R ... this just REAKS of copyright infringement. Oh I completely agree! This is the most outrageous thing I've ever seen! :fume: :fume:

[BopRockMyWorld]

i know its a rip off but i can't wait to see that movie

[Kea]

So does this mean that some other company could make Bop only use Helena 'C'yle instead. And her friend Barbara Gord'i'n and Dinah Lanc'a'? (Hey they just change the name a little!) I'm kidding just kidding!
I'm sorry I've had a long night of baking!!!!

You know that's my question did this go into production before or after Bop. Because the first time I saw this my first thought was its a complete rip off of Bop!!!

http://us.imdb.com/Business?0320691

Budget
$30m

Filming Dates
2 September 2002 - 23 November 2002

[StoyBoy720]

so basically production started after the hypoe for BOP started. Nice, so they basically DID steal the visual style and elements and poster from BOP.

[AshDinaRachLvr]

Well Kea, that's all the confirmation I need! They DID rip it off. Even though Kate Beckinsale stars in this movie and I love her. I'll pass on this movie.

[MiS-CH'vuS]

WTF! i can't believe how they BLATANTLY rip off OUR B.O.P.! grr!

[ShadowWalker]

OHHHH!!!!!! *sound effect of a volcano erupting*
THIS IS SSSSOOOOO A RIP OFF!!!!!!
AAAHHHH!!!!!!
And i really started liking Kate!
:fume: :fume: :fume: :fume: :fume: :fume:

[Sxygrrl Huntress]

Well you don't have to stop liking Kate for it... any actress would take the job.

They obviously did steal elements and the poster because the unaired pilot of BOP was filmed before it was picked up as a series and various media and such did receive copies. So somehow it got to whoever is doing this movie, they liked what they saw and stole it.

This sucks!!! I always said that BOP has extreme potential so why is it the WB never realized this??? This sucks!!!

[Reese'Girl]

I am so mad right now. grrrrrrrr...:fume: :fume: we should sue

[huntress' prey]

OH MY GOD!!!

what a s&%#, did you read the timeless Gothic Metropolis s$%#????

[SevenSlave]

I don't know what else to tell you. ***shrug***

Maybe Sony doesn't have a complaint line (God knows WBI doesn't ... if they did, I would've given them a piece of my mind about Batman & Robin! :fume: ).

[Reese'Girl]

yep. please tell us *begs* we wanna know.

[Kea]

Looks like they borrowed no wait wrong word, ripped off the Bop poster! (And then some!)
jaguarin you took the words right out of my mouth!
AshDinaRachLvr I hear you!

So anyone want to send the WB an Underworld and Bop poster? (Like they would look at it!) You know this would make an interesting article...sorry thinking to much today!

[SevenSlave]

My God! That IS a rip-off! :fume:

About the only differences I see are that (1) the head of the gargoyle in the BOP poster is now a watermark in the moon on the Underworld one and (2) Selene(?) is packing a .45. The color scheme has been changed too.

Other than that, the two are virtually identical! :fume: :fume:

[Kea]

Yup. Put the two posters side by side and oh yeah.
I wonder how it would look like if you place one over the other! Well either way it still spells rip off!:fume:

[Rad]

Originally posted by SevenSlave
I don't know what else to tell you. ***shrug***

Maybe Sony doesn't have a complaint line (God knows WBI doesn't ... if they did, I would've given them a piece of my mind about Batman & Robin! :fume: ).

What do you have against batman and robin? That and batman forever are like the only good batman movies.

[AshDinaRachLvr]

Are you serious? Batman and Robin was the worst Batman movie EVER! I wanted to leave halfway into it. but my dad said he paid good money for that garbage and we had to stay till it was over.

[huntress' prey]

Originally posted by AshDinaRachLvr
Are you serious? Batman and Robin was the worst Batman movie EVER! I wanted to leave halfway into it. but my dad said he paid good money for that garbage and we had to stay till it was over.

LMAO!!!

poor girl, and yeah that was a really waste of money for me :d

[DBZ_EXP]

I paid it too, I just hope the new one will be worth the money.

[SevenSlave]

What's wrong with it?

* Awful dialogue
* George Clooney smirking through more than half the picture

And don't get me started on Alicia Silverstone's Batgirl! :fume: :fume:

[SevenSlave]

FWIW, this is a link to the poster (http://www.impawards.com/2003/underworld.html) in question.

Look familiar? ;)

I think Sony may have just done us a favor. Eventually, WB is going to file a cease-and-desist order against them. When they do, odds are it'll hit the media ... and they won't be able to mention Underworld without mentioning BOP in the same story.

It just might pique the curiosity of the masses. There's GOTTA be a way to capitalize on this somehow.

[hb695]

Originally posted by SevenSlave
What's wrong with it?

* Awful dialogue
* George Clooney smirking through more than half the picture

And don't get me started on Alicia Silverstone's Batgirl! :fume: :fume: Let's not forget the lousy director(Schumacher) and the stupid script writer "Hackiva"(Akiva) Goldsman.

[SevenSlave]

^ I STILL can't believe that this is the same guy who won an Oscar for "A Beautiful Mind". O.O

[hb695]

Guy?!!

[SevenSlave]

^ Yes, Akiva is a man ... IIRC. ;)

[hb695]

:eek:

[Jesse321]

I can't believe A Beatiful Mind won over Moulin Rouge .... WHAT A RIP OFF !!! and don't even get me started on Halle Berry winning over Nicole Kidman .. don't get me wrong ... I saw Monster's Ball and Halle did a GREAT job (plus I love her as Storm) ... but Nicole should have gotten that award.

[jaguarin]

:fume:
If any feels yet that Underworld isn't a copy of BOP, watch this picure... "Pray for the Hunter" come to my mind...
The last straw!!!

Que poca madre... we said in Mexico, and better don't know what it means...


http://www.darkhorizons.com/2003/Underworld.htm
Resume:
Underworld (September 19th) - A modern-day "Romeo and Juliet" story set in the world of vampires and werewolves, in which one lover is a vampire and the other a werewolf even though both races are engaged in an ancient and bloody war.
Stars: Kate Beckinsale, Scott Speedman.

[huntress' prey]

Originally posted by SevenSlave
[B]FWIW, this is a link to the poster (http://www.impawards.com/2003/underworld.html) in question.

Look familiar? ;)



way too familiar

BTW who the heck is that girl???

never seen her before

[Sxygrrl Huntress]

How about this pic:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/2003/under/under4.jpg

Nooooooo, not a rip off at allllllllll

[AshDinaRachLvr]

Originally posted by huntress' prey
way too familiar

BTW who the heck is that girl???

never seen her before Kate Beckinsale, star of Pearl Harbor and Serendipity.

[Reese'Girl]

Originally posted by jaguarin
:fume:
If any feels yet that Underworld isn't a copy of BOP, watch this picure... "Pray for the Hunter" come to my mind...
The last straw!!!

Que poca madre... we said in Mexico, and better don't know what it means...


http://www.darkhorizons.com/2003/Underworld.htm
Resume:
Underworld (September 19th) - A modern-day "Romeo and Juliet" story set in the world of vampires and werewolves, in which one lover is a vampire and the other a werewolf even though both races are engaged in an ancient and bloody war.
Stars: Kate Beckinsale, Scott Speedman.

that is sooooo prey for the hunter. the way she's casualy choking him. The word Huntress flashes through my mind right about now. I think it's really flattering that they like BOP so much but the WB should sue.

[AshDinaRachLvr]

No, we should sue the WB for cancelling a show that inspired a rip off movie with a big budget. It only proves what we've been saying all along.....this show has potential and appeal.

[Reese'Girl]

yeah I agree AshDinaRachLvr. Maybe now the WB will see BOP's potential and pick it up again.

[AshDinaRachLvr]

I mean you KNOW there were a bunch of execs sitting around a big table saying, "Lets make this look like Birds of Prey. That show has style and class and you KNOW the WB will screw that one up! *Laughter*"

[Reese'Girl]

Why isn't the WB doing anything? Are they really waiting for us to send them posters before they'll see the similarities? My gosh, they are so self-centered. Only making sure their company is doing good, and not caring about what another company is doing with thier idea. I'm thinkin they totally forgot about BOP. Like it never existed for them, cause else they would have done something allready.

[AshDinaRachLvr]

I'm sure you're right about that. They're TRYING to forget about Birds of Prey. But that's what the campaign is for. So they NEVER forget!!!!!!!!

[Reese'Girl]

yeah I know but will they ever realize how much Underworld is copying them. I mean the WB totally like money and they can get alot if they sue Sony. Then maybe they can pick BOP up again with the money?

[AshDinaRachLvr]

HAHA, good point! :D

[Reese'Girl]

No I'm serious they could totally use the money they'll get from sueing Sony to start BOP again.

[SevenSlave]

Originally posted by Reese'Girl
Why isn't the WB doing anything? Are they really waiting for us to send them posters before they'll see the similarities?

The wheels of justice turn slowly, RG.

I would counsel patience.

If they wish to defend their intellectual property -- no matter how distasteful to them the intellectual property in question may be -- they have NO CHOICE but to take action. Otherwise, they would have no standing to sue in future BOP-related trademark infringement suits.

[Reese'Girl]

yeah then why aren't they doing anything?

[SevenSlave]

It takes time ... or have you not noticed that the U.S. Court System is backlogged? o.O

[AshDinaRachLvr]

Yeah, with stupid fat kids suing McDonalds.

[SevenSlave]

^ LOL :D

Anyway, the first thing WB will probably try to do is seek a cease-and-desist injunction against Sony, ordering them to stop using all promotional materials which infringe upon WB's intellectual property rights. I seriously doubt it will go beyond that stage.

Sony just may be doing this on purpose. Once this suit hits the media (and it will, eventually), the media won't be able to mention the suit without mentioning Underworld ... thereby giving Sony free publicty for the upcoming movie.

It's not the first time one company has tried to mimic another's ad campaign. Three years ago (when the movie Chicken Run came out), Burger King tried to ape Chik-Fil-A's ad campaign. As a result, Chik-Fil-A sued ... and got a cease-and-desist injunction against Burger King ordering them to drop the portions of their ad campaign which infringed upon Chik-Fil-A's intellectual property.

[Reese'Girl]

yeah but they'll also have to mention BOP when it eventually goes to the media and that will give us some free publicity! Maybe we could start some sort of campaign against Underworld and then they could mention BOPO.com an we'll get more people to join our site and our campaign to bring BOP back. We could make this work!

[SevenSlave]

I'd love to see us capitalize on it ...

The question is, how do we do it? o.O

[Reese'Girl]

That's a very good question.

[AshDinaRachLvr]

Yeah, I'd love to capitalize on this. We all gotta put our Birds of Prey lovin heads together and think!

[Reese'Girl]

Hey you guys I think I found a way to contact Sony!!!!! I was just looking around and I found this: an adress to their main headquarters!

write to: 550 Madison Avenue, New York, NY, 10022

[AshDinaRachLvr]

And you're sure that's not the music Sony? Cuz they have different branches of the company.

[SevenSlave]

When it costs north of $25-million to promote the average feature film, a few hundred thousand in legal fees is chump change.

I read somewhere that over one-third of the budget of the average feature film is dedicated to marketing and promotion.

[Reese'Girl]

No I think it's just Sony Entertainment in general.

[Reese'Girl]

here's the link: http://www.sony.com/help.shtml it's at the bottom of the screen.

[Reese'Girl]

I have just finished writing my letter. I'll mail it soon and hopefully they'll read it.

[SevenSlave]

^ Why are you mailing Sony? o.O

[Reese'Girl]

To tell them that they're totally copying BOP. Duh!

[DrayvensCrow]

Umm....Actually, they are ripping off more than BOP, guys and gals. A gorilla cookie to the bopper who can guess what THREE comics(non-DC) are stolen from!

[Jesse321]

One of them Spawn ... another is Blade ... a third could be Tainted Blood.

[Reese'Girl]

3 comics? lemme think...

[Birdofpreyrocks]

its ripping of blade or buffy to

[Reese'Girl]

it's ripping of everything.

[StoyBoy720]

Not to mention "The Matrix"

[Kea]

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/ mentions it.
A teaser trailer has gone live for the upcoming supernatural thriller film Underworld, starring Kate Beckinsale and Scott Speedman in a story about a war between vampires and werewolves. Underworld opens Sept. 19


I guess they forgot to add it looks just like Bop!


You know I do wonder when someone in the media will pick up on this?

[Jesse321]

I doubt anyone will jsut pick up on it .. we have to be the ones that tell them.

[jrosesimba]

oh my god it's unbelievable,i'm lost for more words!

[Silver Cougar]

The media is byas, it's a plain fact.

They don't want to get big name companies pissed off at them, that's my opinion.

I think I'm loosing it- whan I first looked at the movie poster I thought that the person so plainly imitating Helena was some Japanese actor. Did anyone else pick up on that, or was it just me? Must be the hair *mutters to self*

When I first read about this, trust me, my blood was boiling. But as I read through the thread, I started laughing at all the funny characters everyone was using instead of swear words (different every time!) and thinking. When I clicked on the link to scifiwire I looked at some of the other stuff on the page.

Have you noticed that lately there haven't been many original movies? I mean, it's all either 1) based on a book or book set (Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings) or Comics (X-Men) or 2) A sequel to something (Harry Potter 2, Lord of the Rings 2, X-Men 2). Also- the sequals seem to be a continuation of movies that are based on something!

So that's one thing about Underworld. To my knowledge it's totally original, not a copy of something else (I could be wrong though)

Otherwise it's totally a copy!

[Gothic Knight]

can you spell copycat : u-n-d-e-r-wo-r-l-d

[hb695]

This sucks.

[Jesse321]

Have you noticed that lately there haven't been many original movies? I mean, it's all either 1) based on a book or book set (Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings) or Comics (X-Men) or 2) A sequel to something (Harry Potter 2, Lord of the Rings 2, X-Men 2). Also- the sequals seem to be a continuation of movies that are based on something!

------------------------------------------------------------------------

First of all ... movies based on books or other source material are hardly anything new they have been being done for decades ... for example.

Dracula
Frankenstien
Gone with the Wind
To Kill a Mockingbird
Lizzy Borden
Withering Heights
Auntie Mame
War of the Worlds
The Scarlet Pimpernel
Jecykll & Hyde
Patton

Just to name a few of the top of my head that aren't all that recent .. I could probably come up with at least 10 to 15 more taht were done before the 1960's .. given a bit more time.

Second ... sequels are instant money makers expecially if the first was a blockbuster. But there have been a few sequels that have outshined or done just as well as the originals at the box office:

Aliens
God Father Part II
Star Trek .. The Wrath of Kahn
Terminator 2
X-2 (yeah I know it hasn't been released yet but I'm willing to bet it will do well)
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
Matrix II
Superman II

And Underworld is HARDLY an original concept ... GRANTED it puts together several concepts that have never been used in combination before ... but that hardly makes it original.

By the way Underworld REEKS of Mascarade as well. The last TRUELY orginal concept I saw in a film was the Matrix ... like it or not thats ORIGINAL!

[DBZ_EXP]

"damn dirty" rip off artist.

[hb695]

Who would do this to us?

[AshDinaRachLvr]

SONY!!! EVIL SONY!!! :fume:

[DrayvensCrow]

Comics---Ghost, Razor, The Crow are the main ones. Everything looks like the matrix these days:rolleyes:.....

[DBZ_EXP]

"cough" "cough" "RIP" "cough" "OFF" "cough" "cough" "cough"

[DrayvensCrow]

Bad cough, there! Smoke a ciggy, that will help! LOL:D

[Jesse321]

D ... I could understand the Crow .. I never read Razor .. so i can't comment there ... but what similarities other than the guns do you assocaite with Underworld and Ghost ??

I saw Vampire / The Mascarade, Crow, Spawn, Tainted Blood and Blade in the preview. But the action shots, costumes and backgrounds had BOP all over them.


Whats Razor about .. should I pick it up ??

[DrayvensCrow]

There are things about it that scream "Ghost" to me....as far as Razor goes, she is like Eric D., in as she is dead but in a way, alive. She uses large, razor-sharp gauntlet-style weapons in her fight against the demon hordes roaming the Earth....It might be hard to find, but if you can find it, try it. She has done crossovers with The Crow, Warrior Nun Ariela, etc. It was published by Antartic press, if I remember right....

[DOCMIDNITE]

OK ladies and gents
I'll really throw you over the edge now... MEZCO toys is producing toys for the movie...Yes there is aa female vampire in the huntress coat standing on a building ledge/gargoyle. RIP OFF
check out last months Action Figure news... :fume:

[SevenSlave]

Originally posted by DOCMIDNITE
OK ladies and gents
I'll really throw you over the edge now... MEZCO toys is producing toys for the movie...Yes there is aa female vampire in the huntress coat standing on a building ledge/gargoyle. RIP OFF


THAT'S sure to get WB's attention. :rolleyes:

[DrayvensCrow]

Heard coming from the WB's legal department yesterday afternoon....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[SevenSlave]

^ It hasn't hit Wal-Mart yet ... THAT'S why. ;)

[DrayvensCrow]

OH YEAH! Someone JUMPS all over an idea that WB just pssst off!

[Kea]

DOCMIDNITE you have got to be kidding....does she look a lot like Huntress?

So Sony rips off Bop (add remark of your choice here). So they choose to copy from a TV show that has been canceled and that fans are still fighting to get back! Wow!

[DOCMIDNITE]

Kea
To me it pretty much looks like Huntress. Hair slightly longer, long black leather coat blowing in the wind, hanging on a building ledge. The only difference is the vampire fangs and what appears to be a gun in each hand. Screw em...When we get the show back on our BOP action figures will (in Cartmans words) KICK @$$....

[srfrgrl]

Totally pissed, what a total rip off of BOP!

[DrayvensCrow]

You know, the first date the movie plays would be a good time for everyone to wear BOP shirts and talk about how BOP was ripped off while in line....:whistles, looks all around:

[Reese'Girl]

yeah I agree Dray and then talk about it some more during the movie! :D

[DrayvensCrow]

Heard in the theater during its first showing....

ah...Ah....AH....RIPOFF!!!!!!:D

I borrowed Mr. Peabody's Wayback machine, made a few adjustments and saw it for myself.:D

[srfrgrl]

I would so do that! I would also hand out BOP Comic pages in the theater to really send them over the edge!

[DOCMIDNITE]

[I borrowed Mr. Peabody's Wayback machine, made a few adjustments and saw it for myself.:D [/B][/QUOTE]

Wow Mr. Peabody!!!!wonder how many Boppers remember that?
**DravensCrow uses his super powers and manages to age DocMidnite 25 years****:eek:

[Kea]

Kea
To me it pretty much looks like Huntress. Hair slightly longer, long black leather coat blowing in the wind, hanging on a building ledge. The only difference is the vampire fangs and what appears to be a gun in each hand. Screw em...When we get the show back on our BOP action figures will (in Cartmans words) KICK @$$....-DOCMIDNITE


LOL DOCMIDNITE I am holding you to that! Yup still waiting for the Bop action figures!

You don't have a link for the Huntress rip off action figure do you? This I have got to see!

[DrayvensCrow]

Originally posted by DOCMIDNITE
****DrayvensCrow uses his super powers and manages to age DocMidnite 25 years****:eek:

NO! That would be wrong, citizen! One must NEVER missuse....Well, it's for a good cause, I guess.

****DrayvensCrow uses his powers to de-age Jordan Levin out of existance!****HA!

[DOCMIDNITE]

You don't have a link for the Huntress rip off action figure do you? This I have got to see! [/B][/QUOTE]

Kea, http://www.toymania.com/toyshows/tf2003/full/drake_mezco.shtml
If it doesn't work.Go to search engine you use. type in Mezco Toys, Underworld. This should bring you to the page you need.Click on "Underworld", then on the picture of the figure and it will enlarge....Blatant Rip-off

[jaguarin]

Here is most direct http://www.toymania.com/toyshows/tf2003/mezco3.shtml

[Kea]

Thanks DOCMIDNITE! And jaguarin!

UNDERWORLD: This line is based on the movie of the same name. What's it about? Let me use "movie math" to explain. ROMEO & JULIET + DRACULA vs. THE WOLFMAN+ THE MATRIX= UNDERWORLD. The raw footage of the film I saw looked cool and the figures are very well sculpted. I'm especially fond of the lead female character sitting atop a gargoyle in a Batman/ Spiderman/ Daredevil -ish pose. Sure to be a hit with Goths everywhere. - http://www.toymania.com/toyshows/tf2003/full/drake_mezco.shtml

They even admit it! Ok sure they said Batman instead of Bop but still.

The two worth seeing are
http://www.toymania.com/toyshows/tf2003/full/tf03mezco48.shtml
http://www.toymania.com/toyshows/tf2003/full/tf03mezco49.shtml

You have to see it to believe it!

Let do a check list.
-long jacket
-gargoyle
-Is that maybe a window to a clocktower I see?

[Reese'Girl]

OMG Kea! that is a totall ripoff, how could they?

[jaguarin]

I never say bad words here, but I saw that and I imagine a lot of that.
I can't understand how and another company is thinking and trying to make money with an idea that WB try to forget.

[AshDinaRachLvr]

Oh wow! This is all overwhelming! I mean, after the toys, what more proof do we need?

[trancer]

Ripoff aside, does anyone else think this movie is just one giant tax write off for Sony? Seriously, it has straight to video written all over it. A $25 million dollar budget for an ACTION movie!?! An action movie starring a flavor of the month, "it girl", that no one outside of Vanity Fair magazine gives a crap about, let alone has yet to have a hit movie here in the States.

Seriously, the warning bells went off in my head when I saw that the biggest star they could find for their lead was Kate Beckinsale. Really. This has suck written all over it.

[DOCMIDNITE]

Trancer
Hey some of these Vanity Fair, flavor of the month models/actresses are really talented!!!!
Bwwwaaawwwhhhhaaaawwwhhhaaaawwww....snort, snort
sorry I couldn't help myself....

****our local crimefighter passes out from oxygen deprevation from laughing so hard**************


:D :D :D :D

[DrayvensCrow]

Has KB even done an action movie like this?????(read:Rex Smith as DD in "The Trial of The Incredible Hulk")

[AshDinaRachLvr]

She did Pearl Harbor. Does that count? And to trancer, Kate IS talented. And why does this movie HAVE to have some HUGE megastar? Maybe they just liked Kate and chose her. Ever think of that?

[Reese'Girl]

I agree AshDinaRachLvr, maybe they DID just chose Kate because they thought that sh fit the part of Selina. But still she looks an awful lot like Huntress.

[DrayvensCrow]

Pearl Harbor, I don't think could be considered an action movie. You can have alot of action in a movie and NOT be an action movie.

[srfrgrl]

Kate Beckinsdale has no business trying to be a Huntress wannabe!

[Sxygrrl Huntress]

I disagree. She's an actress accepting what is probably a very well-paying job. I don't blame the cast... it's the writers/producers that stole the concept.

[Jesse321]

While I agree with SGH ... I have to agree with the others as well .. these toys are a blatant rip off ... but then again the visuals already were .. so why should we expect the toys to be any different ??

[Kea]

So do you think the WB is going to do something about it or not?

[SevenSlave]

Originally posted by Sxygrrl Huntress
I disagree. She's an actress accepting what is probably a very well-paying job. I don't blame the cast... it's the writers/producers that stole the concept.

If there's anyone to blame, it's Sony (THEY drafted the marketing campaign, after all ;) ).

Originally posted by Kea
So do you think the WB is going to do something about it or not?

I think they're waiting until Sony makes its campaign public (And gives them tangible -- and public -- evidence of infringement).

[trancer]

And to trancer, Kate IS talented. And why does this movie HAVE to have some HUGE megastar? Maybe they just liked Kate and chose her. Ever think of that?

No, of course that never occured to me. Why does this movie have to have a megastar? To make money, of course. It's a known fact that people are more willing to see a movie if there's a recognizable actor attached to it. Kate Beckinsale is NOT a recognizable star. I guarantee you if the producers of this movie had a choice between Beckinsale and Angelina Jolie, we'd be discussing Jolie and her new $100 mil budget movie.

Second, the budget is another huge clue. Sony is not some small independent company and the most they're willing to shell out for the budget is $25 mil? That says to me they're willing to shell out the bucks to make the movie, but don't have enough confidence in either the premise or its star to give it the blockbuster treatment.

Another huge clue, the release date for this movie is in September. That's almost as big a month for studio dumping its movie's as March. IF they had confidence this movie would do well, they'd release it during the summer or spring. The fall is not known for being good to action movies.

And, just for the record, I never said KB was untalented. But, since you brought it up, I think she's just another in a long line of amazingly bland actresses shoved down the collective publics throats being sold as "great".

[AshDinaRachLvr]

Ever hear of a little movie called Spiderman? Broke all kinds of Box Office records and it starred Tobey Mcguire. He is nowhere near a MEGASTAR. So it isn't necessary to have a HUGE star in order to achieve the #1 movie. And here's another, The Lord of The Rings. Mostly a cast of unknowns with a few semi-HUGE stars. It did amazing. Harry Potter as well. It's all about the movies appeal. Not who stars in it.

[DrayvensCrow]

Tobey McGuire isn't a pretty boy, which is what the role called for(a non-pretty boy). LOTR you could get away with that type of casting. Now as for Sir Ian McK., HE is a big name! Harry Potter is a kid's movie mainly. You could get away with putting trained monkeys in those roles. The success for ALL of these films is partly hype, partly story and BIG part fx. Would Spidey have been as big a success if he had the same fx as Nicolas Hammond did in the TV series? No. Rememer, there are still Marvel fans out there that are angry for the way Spidey came out (organic web shooters, etc.).

[trancer]

AshDnaRachLvr, I'm not trying to be argumentative and there's really no reason to be snide, but what's your point? Pointing out that Spiderman had Tobey McGuire cast in the lead role ignores the fact that it had a $130 mil budget. "Lord of the Rings"? Each part of the trilogy is budgeted at appr. $100 mil. That was a $300 mil investment by New Line.

Similarities, cast of unknowns, sure, THE big difference, blockbuster treatment by the studios funding the project. Underworld is NOT being given the blockbuster treatment by Sony. Underworld's budget is $25 mil. Starring an actress very few people know of, released during a statistically slow month ticket sales wise.

My point isn't that low budget movies with no name stars can't be box-office hits. Never said that. My point is THIS movie isn't being treated like a potential hit. It's being treated a tax write off.

[SevenSlave]

Originally posted by DrayvensCrow
Harry Potter is a kid's movie mainly. You could get away with putting trained monkeys in those roles.

I wouldn't exactly call Robbie Coltrane, Kenneth Branagh, Richard Harris, Alan Rickman, John Cleese, and Maggie Smith unknowns. o.O

[DrayvensCrow]

Well, I can't list EVERYBODY'S names?! Besides, I didn't say they were unknowns, and I was talking about the kids' roles. Guess I should have specified....:p

[Jesse321]

And not even Dray .. I've seen kids that can't act for shit ... the kids in HP are very talented ... remember they have to do the charactors in the books justice .. which IMO they have done twice so far VERY VERY well. Yeah you could argue that its the directors .. but if the talent isn't there .. the directors have nothing to work with.

And as far as kid actors go Haley Joel Ossmett can act better than alot of adults.

[DrayvensCrow]

Ok, ok! Geez! :p But you see the point I was trying to make....

[huntress' prey]

is this the pic of the toy you were talking about?
http://www.toymania.com/toyshows/tf2003/full/tf03mezco49.shtml well, the hell is a rip off, that's huntress

and read one quote;
Selene: I am a Death Dealer, sworn to destroy those known as the Lychans. Our war has waged for centuries, unseen by human eyes. But all that is about to change.

that's huntress's actitude

BS!!!

[DOCMIDNITE]

Thats the rip off I was talking about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:fume:

[huntress' prey]

and the most unbelievable part, is that the WB, has said nothing about that movie, come on, they want to get rid of BoP that much, that they're able not no say a word about that rip off???

[StoyBoy720]

Well, there's a plus side at least. Now it'll be easier to make custom Huntress action figures. lol

[Jesse321]

My point isn't that low budget movies with no name stars can't be box-office hits. [/B][/QUOTE]

Mt Big Fat Greek Wedding proves that .. true it wasn't a blockbuster hit right off the bat .. BUT it only cost 5 million to make and grossed over 400 million eventually.

By the way LOTR ... all three movies were shot on a budget of 240 million and becuase of Peter Jackson came in UNDER budget by close to 10 million ... it was only after Fellowship proved to be the blockbuster it was that more money was invested to sup up the remaining 2 films.

And also Peter Jackson .. didn't work on a salary .. he knew was he was doing and what was going to happen so he actually negocaited that his salary be based on the box office gross ... pretty smart man if you ask me.

[Frostbite]

The Real Cancun is a low budget movie with no name stars, and that's doing pretty well in the box office. Another low budget movie (though without no name stars) is Phone Booth, it only cost like $1000 excluding the salaries of the actors.

[Jesse321]

True that FB .. Phone Booth was a one set movie ... JS .. took a page from Alfred Hitch****s Lifeboat on that one. I still haven't seen it though was it any good ??

You couldn't get me to waste me time watching the Real Cancun if you paid me to. It takes a REALLY good movie like X2 tro get me into theaters now a days .. it seems most movies come out on DVD in 2 months or less after they leave the theaters.

[Rad]

X2 is really good! I went to see it yesterday! What about the matrix, do you like that? You know, underworld would be kind of interesting if they weren't ripping off BoP, one of my all-time favorite shows...

[AshDinaRachLvr]

Matrix Reloaded does look damn amazing. When the trailer came on at the X2 showing, everyone shut up and even clapped and cheered at the end.

[Frostbite]

Originally posted by Jesse321
Alfred Hitch****s
Haha. They censored out Hitchc.o.c.k.

[Jesse321]

LOL .. I know can you beleive that ... I guess they have keywords locked out.

[Jesse321]

Originally posted by Rad
X2 is really good! I went to see it yesterday! What about the matrix, do you like that? You know, underworld would be kind of interesting if they weren't ripping off BoP, one of my all-time favorite shows...

I've aready seen X-2 twice Rad .. there is a thread discussing it in No Man's Land.

I'll go see Matrix because I LOVED the concept of the original .. and I thought the special effects were BRILLIANTLY executed too.

I might go see Underworld at a matinee .. it looks interesting ... and I like the gothicy look of it.

[DrayvensCrow]

Originally posted by Jesse321
I might go see Underworld at a matinee .. it looks interesting ... and I like the gothicy look of it.

....gothicy???? :rolleyes: :D

The reviews are coming out already....no one is impressed by it. Average rating is about 1 1/2 out of five....

[Sxygrrl Huntress]

Yes, there's the usual list of words blocked out - and unfortunately it doesn't recognize when it's safe to use them when they are in part of a word... like Alfred Hitchblanks name :D

[Jesse321]

Originally posted by DrayvensCrow
....gothicy???? :rolleyes: :D

The reviews are coming out already....no one is impressed by it. Average rating is about 1 1/2 out of five....

I never listen to reviews ... I have brains enough to make up my own opinion ... and my opinons don't always coinside with what critiques or other veiwers like.

[DrayvensCrow]

Actually, they echo most of what has been said here. And they've seen the dailys....

[Jesse321]

Dray ... like I've said before ... I never listen to critics or, exit polls or other peoples options in general .... films, like art are very subjective ... I can name a bunch of films and shows that are not well liked by most people but I still enjoyed them ... and by the same token there have been films and shows that are critical masterpieces (according to some) (Mulhollen Dragson and Godawful Park come to mind) yet when I've seen them ... well lets just say ... I did call them pieces of something. :D

[DrayvensCrow]

LOL:D Yeah, I know the feeling.

[demon12db]

go to geocities.com/demon12db/TRAININGDAY0.hyml to vote to bring them back with no expens

[Derek Quinzel]

WHAT THE F*%K ARE THEY THINKING?

[Orcat]

<quote>
WHAT THE F*%K ARE THEY THINKING?
<quote>

lol Derek.

[Angel_Eyes16]

i honestly think sony is trying to capatilize on the wb's mistake, but the people at the wb probably have thier heads so far up thier @$$'s to even give a crap about copywright and legal stuff, i hope wb does get on the ball though and realize that sony is sneaking around stealing thier ideas. im thinking about sneaking a stereo into the theater when the movie comes out, and blast the theme song to bop, or sabataging the film :D anyone else have any ideas!?

[SevenSlave]

The average moviegoer has probably never even heard of "Revolution".

[DOCMIDNITE]

True, True 7, I can't even find it at the music stores near me...ask for it and the gothic, pierced, lovely young lady behind the counter just stared at me...maybe it's because i'm "youth challenged":p

[AshDinaRachLvr]

That's cuz Aimee Allen was dropped from her record label and the CD was never released. I don't even know if there was a full CD made. But I have heard "Revolution" a few times on MTV . Not the video, but during a few of their shows. Specificly on one of their Spring Break shows.

[AshDinaRachLvr]

Originally posted by Angel_Eyes16
im thinking about sneaking a stereo into the theater when the movie comes out, and blast the theme song to bop HAHA! GREAT idea! I'll do it! :D

[DrayvensCrow]

Originally posted by AshDinaRachLvr
That's cuz Aimee Allen was dropped from her record label and the CD was never released. I don't even know if there was a full CD made. But I have heard "Revolution" a few times on MTV . Not the video, but during a few of their shows. Specificly on one of their Spring Break shows.

Well, supposedly she's been signed again and her CD will be out in June. Buddy of mine downloaded "Revolution" for me and since I was helping him out by DJ'ing for him, I just HAD to play it! iIt was well received by the rest of us "youth-challenged" folks. LOL

[AshDinaRachLvr]

It's a great song. I don't see why she was ever dropped in the first place. If all of her stuff is that good, she'll go far in the industry. And do you know if she was re-signed to the same label, or to a different one?

[DrayvensCrow]

Well, that's a good question. Her pages are at the Elektra records site, if I remember right. But I swear she was signed by Geffen. It's confusing.....

[AshDinaRachLvr]

Yeah, sounds like it is.

[DrayvensCrow]

Somewhere there is an Aimee Allen thread in here....*DC points the cavernous area that is The Clocktower*

[AshDinaRachLvr]

Cool! I'll check it out. Thanks.

[GoldFlyingMouse]

I agree with you completely !


Originally posted by Jesse321
OKAY I"M PISSED .... take a look at this trailer for the new movie underworld and tell me that its not a TOTAL RIP-OFF of BOP (minus the vampires) !!

Right down to the freaking MOVIE POSTER !!


WTF !!

http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/underworld/low.html



:fume:

Even if this is a hit Birds of Prey could have been this & a millon fold more interms of brillence & entertainment ! It doesn't suprize me that BOP has influnced many in even the short time it was on. It was ground breaking & definately inspired these fakes atleast subconsciously ! The painful truth is none of them will compare with it in magnitude.

It is also extremely disapointing some producer blow their big budget on this crap. They could have made a Birds of prey movie & it would have be a hit !

:fume: :eek: :fume: :eek: :fume: :eek: :angel:

[Derek Quinzel]

I HATE EVEYTHING SONY!

(throws computer out window)
(throws PS2 out window)
(throws tv out window)
(throws movies out window)
(throws digital camera out window)
(throws camcorder out window)
(throws PDA out window)
(throws Everquest out window)
(throws girlfriend out window)

Oops!

[SevenSlave]

^ LOL!! :D :D :D

[AshDinaRachLvr]

Your girlfriend is made by SONY?!!!!!

[Frostbite]

There's actually some device like that in Japan, but I'm not going to get into that.

[SevenSlave]

Originally posted by AshDinaRachLvr
Your girlfriend is made by SONY?!!!!!

I am SOOOOOOOOOOOO not going there! LMAO

[AshDinaRachLvr]

Yeah, I think it best we just move on. I ain't touchin' this with a 20 foot pole!!!!!!

[DrayvensCrow]

*just standing in a corner, whistling and waiting for the THUD*

[Derek Quinzel]

(thud)

Oh well. Better start hitting on The_Vipress.

[Orcat]

Hey baby, wanna knock boots in the back of my herse?
~V~

[Derek Quinzel]

I knew you were Kinky. One question though. Are you made by SONY?

[DOCMIDNITE]

Originally posted by The_Vipress
Hey baby, wanna knock boots in the back of my herse?
~V~

....wait for it, wait..................3...........2.................1.............
and with that said, Mom(SGH) swoops in to lower the BOOM..........
on all things naughty:D ;) :p :eek: LOL

[AshDinaRachLvr]

^ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Derek Quinzel]

Originally posted by AshDinaRachLvr
^ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm also on the floor laughing my fat @$$ off!

[AshDinaRachLvr]

HAHA!!!

[Reese'Girl]

I'm not even gonna ask!