Someone at the WB.com claims Sci-Fi has picked up Birds of Prey

[AshDinaRachLvr]

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Sorry I've been gone, guys! I've been in California working with my friend at an unamed (for his sake) post production facility the Sci-fi network uses. My mission? Spread the word and start a revolution! (Of course the money I earned as a contractor was also part of it.)

I had a chance to talk with several people from Sci-fi during my "undercover work" and found out I didn't need to convice anyone! I have good news, bad news and good news;
-The good news, Sci-fi wants BOP!!!
-The bad news, Sci-fi's blown their budget on Galactica, the remake of Battlestar Gallactica. So while they're planning on putting BOP into their schedule in the next year, it will only be the 13 episodes produced. (Like they did with "Mann and Machine")
-The good news is that they purchased the rights to produce the show in the future if (when) Gallactica or another big budget show (Tremmors: The Series) dies.

So while we'll see new BOP episodes eventually, I'm afraid Dina, Ashley and Rachel won't participate.

And for the Anti-BOPers; Sci-fi's decision was "based on a the huge support the fans have shown for the show". WE DID MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
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I really don't know what to make of this. I don't know why someone would bother to fabricate this kind of information, but I also think that if this were true, it would be more known about. So.........................I dunno.

[jaguarin]

If it's true, now we must let know Sci Fi that we love BOP becouse of Rachel, Ashley, Mia, Dina, Ian & Shemar.

[huntress' prey]

i think one of the targets of the bop fund is sci-fi

and let's wait for more information about that post and what it says.
and like jag said, if it's true, one of the reasons - 3 to be exact -we love the show is because of the girls :D

... and the boys ;)

[jaguarin]

That boy!!!!!!! MMMMMMM!!!!! :p

[AshDinaRachLvr]

On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being not believeable and 10 being most bleieveable, how do you rate this "news?"

I give it a 5 since this guy has always been a BOPPER and that makes the news a little more credible versus a hater trying to get out goat.

[Sxygrrl Huntress]

I would say unless you have fact to back anything up, do not believe a word so you don't set yourself up. We can all hope it's true but don't count on it.

People can say anything online. Many people on the forum have contacts from the WB but no one has made a mention of this yet. While I will hope and pray that it IS true, I will have to keep my number at 1, as in not believing it until I see proof.

Until then, I'll keep fighting the campaign and trying to promote the fund so that we can really let them know that we want to:

BRING BACK THE BIRDS!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Gothic Knight]

Keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep the birds flyinnnnnnnnnnng

[hb695]

GOD SAVE THE BIRDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cool: :smoke:

[SevenSlave]

I'm waiting for Ladarkangel/JessikaJordyn to weigh in on this ... she actually WORKS for WB.

Skiffy's come up a couple of times in the past. It seems that they have an on-again/off-again flirtation with the show.

As it stands, Marvel has a comics-related stranglehold on Sci-Fi. DC may well be trying to enter the game there. Just as nature abhors a vacuum, it also abhors a monopoly. ;)

[Kea]

I'm in the 'I'll believe it when I see it' mode.
Besides one of the main reason we love Bop is because of Rachel, Ashley, Dina and Ian! If it were true you would think they would try to get most of the cast back...right? (I have no idea how these things work...sorry!)

I agree we keep fighting until we get our Bop back! :)

[huntress' prey]

Originally posted by hb695
GOD SAVE THE BIRDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cool: :smoke:


That's my motto :D

[Gothic Knight]

ditto

[DrayvensCrow]

Re:Alleged SciFi Accquisition Of BOP....

1. While we all know why Dina and Rachael wouldn't be back, why wouldn't Ashley? If they weren't going to make new eps. until next season, she would be available then....

2. On anything like this, there MUST be at least 3 independant confirmations by knowledgeable sources AND, in this case, SciFi. We just might have one source here with us....besides the first post, and I'M not going to ask! (IMHO, I think that we would be informed, unless there was a confidentiality agreement attached.)

3. There might not be anything announced until after Sweeps season. Alot of announcements are held up until then.

[SevenSlave]

^ It's still early, DC.

For now, let's continue on with business as usual. :)

[Bigoracle]

Bring the Birds back !!!!!
But bring it back with Dina, Ashley,Rachel, Mia, and Ian !!!!!!
That's the real Birds that we love!!!

[BopRockMyWorld]

i agree bigoracle! ashley,rachel,dina, shemar, ian, and mia are the BEST!

[srfrgrl]

I think that if the price is right, they will all return! Hey its a job with a loyal following and it would have to be picked up for more than just one more season, to get them interested. They all seemed to love the characters they portrayed. I will not of course believe anything until I here the words from Sci-Fi. I am also still going to continue with the campaign.

[DrayvensCrow]

Originally posted by SevenSlave
^ It's still early, DC.

For now, let's continue on with business as usual. :)

That's why it says "Alleged":)....Although I really would like to hear an official word from Ashley's camp....:(

[LisaM]

I think that we should take everything with a big grain of salt. Remember how excited everyone became over the news regarding the German company and BoP?

[Kea]

I think that if the price is right, they will all return! Hey its a job with a loyal following and it would have to be picked up for more than just one more season, to get them interested. They all seemed to love the characters they portrayed. I will not of course believe anything until I here the words from Sci-Fi. I am also still going to continue with the campaign.-srfrgrl
srfrgrl you spoke my mind!

You see here's the thing I don't get. If they did purchased the rights why not show the reruns already?

You know what let me go grab my salt shaker while I read this!

[SevenSlave]

Originally posted by Kea

You see here's the thing I don't get. If they did purchased the rights why not show the reruns already?


[Little Miss Obvious]

Because there's no room on their schedule right now? o.O

They just picked up the reruns to Firefly too.

[/Little Miss Obvious]

[SevenSlave]

^ We don't know that yet.

We can't even confirm the report is genuine. :(

[Kea]

LOL thanks Liz! Its been a very long day! (And somehow deep down when I was awake I knew that!!) ;)
You know I wonder they are showing reruns of Cleopatra 2525 at the moment. They are showing two episodes back to back so they are going to run out of eps pretty soon. And there were only a few hour long eps...!
Well I guess time will tell!

[DrayvensCrow]

Originally posted by SevenSlave
[Little Miss Obvious], [/Little Miss Obvious]

HA!HA! :D I LOVE IT! :D

[the_watcher]

At least lets hope for some other hard data on the news, because I really didn't like to hear that Miss Meyer wouldn't be in a new season.
She is just perfect as babs/oracle, I have never seen anyone more up to the job. And Ashley tooooo, although I don't like her piercings (that's a personal opinion and everyone is free to think as they like).
Ian is next to the Tas cartoon the most perfect Alfred I have seen and I have seen all of them during the last 20 years. In what concerns to Rachel she was ok, but because the black Canary has such an easy portrait not only of personality but also of physic presentation, it's easier to find a replacement than the others. Shemar is ok too because he gets into a new character that never apeared before so I can't compare.
But I want to see more of Mia she's just such a lovelly psicopathic, smart, ingenius, mad to the bone Harley, just loved it.
Let's pray to the gods that only the first topic is real and gets confirmed.
Sayonara, kids

[huntress' prey]

Originally posted by the_watcher
But I want to see more of Mia she's just such a lovelly psicopathic, smart, ingenius, mad to the bone Harley, just loved it.



yep, she's great :D

she's the best evil psycho bitch i've ever seen :rolleyes:

[Jesse321]

I refuse to give any more credibility to any more unsubstanciated rumors ... I won't get excited agian or even beleive anything until I see it in print.

[SevenSlave]

They might make an announcement after May sweeps (Otherwise, there's the risk of the audience tuning out during the crucial Sweeps period and waiting for the fall shows to begin).

[Silver Cougar]

Those diabolical... *mutters darkly*

Well, since I've had so many hits to my TV schedule lately I haven't been very interested in TV. I think I'm a touch afraid that they'll cancel any new show I like, which is ridiculous of course.

So, personally, I'll believe anything when I see it with my own young eyes. Or hear it with my own young ears. Or get a telepathic message in my own exausted, overworked, and bored stiff brain.

[DBZ_EXP]

When I see Sci-fi announce that they have bought BoP, I will start the celebration. Until it's no good, and still might not be unless the real actors/actresses some back.

[Bigoracle]

Dina Meyer said that she didn't know nothing about it.
Maybe it's a rumor

[SevenSlave]

It's either that ... or it's still early in the process.

Anyhoo ... let's get back to work, shall we?

We've got a show to save! ;)

Besides, we were warned over on The WB board that Skiffy blew its budget on several big-ticket projects this year (Taken, Children of Dune, Tremors: The Series, Battlestar Galactica, etc. ). If there's anything happening, we might not see action for some time yet.

[AshDinaRachLvr]

Dina also said she'd play Barbara on a Nightwing series, but the webmaster wouldn't aske her about Birds of Prey. I have a feeling she'd return. I'd actually put money on it.

[DBZ_EXP]

My bet is it's just a rumor to lower morale when we find out thats all it is, a romor.

[SevenSlave]

I guess it's back to work, huh? ;)

[DBZ_EXP]

Yeah sure whatever, so sad.

[SevenSlave]

^ Don't be sad, DBZ.

It could still happen ... we may simply be early, that's all. ;)

In the meantime, let's keep working! :)

[DBZ_EXP]

Well than I need some proof, i have very little will to fight left.

[SevenSlave]

I really wish I could give you the proof that you seek, DBZ.

I really do. :(

***SevenSlave hugs DBZ***

[DBZ_EXP]

Thanks, but wow a rumor sci-fi will pick it up, big deal. There have been many rumors, I believe we all remember the G.K. rumors.

[SevenSlave]

I remember that.

Apparently it was started by an overzealous Bat-fan who didn't care for the idea of women superheroes. :rolleyes:

[hb695]

Originally posted by AshDinaRachLvr
Dina also said she'd play Barbara on a Nightwing series, but the webmaster wouldn't aske her about Birds of Prey. I have a feeling she'd return. I'd actually put money on it. I feel happy about my question being answered.:cool:

[DrayvensCrow]

^ How about a Nightwing(O'Donnell)/BOP(TOS Cast) movie?

[DBZ_EXP]

Tell that idea to warner Brothers, and at the same time tell them to bring back the birds.




GStB!

[hb695]

Originally posted by DrayvensCrow
^ How about a Nightwing(O'Donnell)/BOP(TOS Cast) movie? The one who played Darkstrike in "Split" should play Dick.

[Jesse321]

ummm ... no he shouldn't ... Dick is supposed to be MUCH better built and MUCH better looking ... DS was basically .. well .. yuck.

[AshDinaRachLvr]

Oh I thought he was HOT!!!!

[tywayparks]

I e-mailed SciFi and asked them about this. I'm not sure if anyone has done this yet, but I'll let you know if I hear back.

[Edster]

Originally posted by Jesse321
ummm ... no he shouldn't ... Dick is supposed to be MUCH better built and MUCH better looking ... DS was basically .. well .. yuck.

Darkstrike wasn't actually a drop dead gorgeous guy, but nice to look at nonetheless. Much better than yuck... now the guy dressed up in the Huntress togs in that other thread... now that's yuck! ;-)

Ed

[SevenSlave]

Originally posted by DrayvensCrow
^ How about a Nightwing(O'Donnell)/BOP(TOS Cast) movie?

O'Donnell could do it (He's 32).

He and Nightwing aren't that far apart in age.

[DBZ_EXP]

He was hardly a good robin, he wouldn't be a good nightwing. Then again what do I know?

[AshDinaRachLvr]

I thought he did a good job. He was a better Robin verses George Clooney's Batman.

[beingmeb]

Has anybody heard anything new about this rumor? Many thanks in advance.

[SevenSlave]

^ Nothing yet, I'm afraid. :(

We may not hear anything new until after May sweeps. o.o

[DrayvensCrow]

Originally posted by DBZ_EXP
He was hardly a good robin, he wouldn't be a good nightwing. Then again what do I know?

So maybe Burt Ward then? Hey, Jesse! You up for being Nightwing?!

[DBZ_EXP]

Burt could be robins nightwings boss on the police force, but that's about it.

[Kea]

I just found this article. It does not have anything to do with Bop but it talks about some other shows sci-fi has already pulled (like Cleo 2525).
See
http://www.thefutoncritic.com/cgi/gofuton.cgi?action=newswire&id=5912

[LisaM]

I found that article to be interesting but I am not sure if it will have any impact on BoP. SciFi is pulling Tremors, its orginal series, and reruns of Cleopatra. Perhaps they will find that they need BoP.

[Jesse321]

Originally posted by DrayvensCrow
So maybe Burt Ward then? Hey, Jesse! You up for being Nightwing?!

HELL YES !!! Just give me a couple more months in the gym I'm down to a 32 waist and and up to a 47 chest.

[DrayvensCrow]

Originally posted by Jesse321
HELL YES !!! Just give me a couple more months in the gym I'm down to a 32 waist and and up to a 47 chest.

No, sorry! We've got to have you fitted by next week! LOL:D I know I'm going to regret asking this, but you do know that you have to do ALL YOUR OWN STUNTS ala Burt Ward, right? :calls the set doctor to the sound stage....::D

BTW, I haven't seen any cleo2525 reruns on scifi....

[Kea]

I think Cleo was only on for three weeks.

[Jesse321]

That show was LAME O with a capital L ... I watched 2 or 3 episodes of it when it was first on because it came on between Earth Final Conflict and Mutant X down here in FL. But I couldn't stomach it .. HORRIBLE acting, CHEAP special effects and probably the WORST writing of any Sci-Fi show ever.

Mad TV spoofs it all the time ... its a freaking RIOT !!! I think its called Prehistoic Amazon Jungle Vixens or something, but everytime it comes on Mad TV I just laugh my butt off.

[Jesse321]

Originally posted by DrayvensCrow
No, sorry! We've got to have you fitted by next week! LOL:D I know I'm going to regret asking this, but you do know that you have to do ALL YOUR OWN STUNTS ala Burt Ward, right? :calls the set doctor to the sound stage....::D

I would insist on doing my own stunts ... thats half the fun of it ... and according to my boyfriend ... I could be fitted for the costume now ... but I would have to dye my hair black ... which he says he would like too.

[jaguarin]

Well, a change sometimes is good, will like you too, and if it don't, remember that the hair grows... :p

[DrayvensCrow]

What about Escrema? Trapeeze? Bat-a-rangs? Swinging through the air, with the greatest of ease (like that daring young man on the flying trapeeze....LOL, couldn't resist!)! You know! The important stuff!

[Jesse321]

Bring it on !!! I've always been the daredevil type !!! and isn't running away with the circus every kids fantasy ?

[DrayvensCrow]

No, NO, NO! Remember! DG OWNS the circus! Geez! :slaps head: Stay in character! LOL

[Kea]

An interesting note on the ratings that about Cleo and Tremors: The Series had. Here are the top 10 sci-fi shows for 4/7/03 - 4/13/03
Source: Nielsen Galaxy Report, http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/

Scare Tactics 1.4
Riverworld 1.4
Red Planet 1.4
Tremors: The Series 1.3
Stargate SG-1 1.2
Battlefield Earth 1.0
Cleopatra 2525 0.9
Wing Commander 0.7
Beyond Belief 0.7
Roar 0.6

[DrayvensCrow]

It makes me feel like we've got a better than average chance to do good numbers!!!!!:D

[DBZ_EXP]

I wonder what's the next show they are going to start, then cancel. You know they will, they cancel all their good shows.

[Darkstryke]

I alwaysed like Cleo2525...And sorry to dissappoint you guys but its doubtful that Mia would return her character was defeated and probably locked up in a prison much like the Joker was, and leaves a space for a big villain to fill for the next season kinda like the buffy thing with the first, then somebofdy then adam then glory ya see where I'm goign with this.

[Edster]

Originally posted by Darkstryke
I alwaysed like Cleo2525...And sorry to dissappoint you guys but its doubtful that Mia would return her character was defeated and probably locked up in a prison much like the Joker was, and leaves a space for a big villain to fill for the next season kinda like the buffy thing with the first, then somebofdy then adam then glory ya see where I'm goign with this.

This doesn't necessarily have to happen. Sure, Harley was defeated, but that was to give closure to the show since it was, as of now, the last show, but I think if the show had lasted 3 or 4 seasons without interruption, she would've been part of it. She clearly was to be THE villain that, given enough time, would rival that of the Joker, and villains like that are not meant to be 'flash in the pans'.

No, I'm sorry, but Mia would have to be back as well. She's just as important as Ashley, Dina, Ian or Rachel. And I think with her new added power, she could easily return and cause more havoc while right under the Birds' noses. Besides, most popular shows do switch villains but some also retain one villain mostly through out the whole run. Look at Days of our Lives. Stefano DiMera is THE villain of that show (not sure if this holds true for the present day since I don't watch it). Yes I know it's a soap opera but who cares? The point is that when everyone thinks the villain is down for the count, something else happens that involves them and it's just as engaging, and actually adds to the villains' menace. Maybe it'd force her to don disguises where she would totally transform herself in other identities. I'm sure Mia would love to stretch her acting muscles then.

Mia *has* to be back...


Ed :)

[SevenSlave]

I doubt Harley was ever intended to last more than one season.

Besides, she could always come back in a recurring role (as could Reese).

[Kea]

I have to agree with Edster. There are a few ways to bring Harley back into the picture. A recurring role could work for her as well as for Reese. Hey Liz said it first not me!

I think one interesting Bop story line would be if they told the story of what happened between the time Barbara and Helena's life changed up to the time Dinah came to New Gotham. It was a 7 year time span that could be nicely explored!

As long as we get some part of the show back I'd be happy!

[Darkstryke]

Hey thats the coolest idea ever.. If we get the show back with the entire cast they should make an episode or two like a two parter about what happened that night. It would explain so much more then those stupid flashbacks, they could also show what was happening in all the birds life as well as Harleys and Darkstrikes and stuff. It would be the coolest episode ever. Quick someone turn this into a fanfic so I can read it. Great idea Kea.

[AshDinaRachLvr]

Originally posted by Edster


Besides, most popular shows do switch villains but some also retain one villain mostly through out the whole run. Look at Days of our Lives. Stefano DiMera is THE villain of that show (not sure if this holds true for the present day since I don't watch it).

Nope. He's now on The Bold and the Beautiful. He plays a good guy now. His son is the new bad guy on Days.

[AshDinaRachLvr]

Originally posted by Kea
An interesting note on the ratings that about Cleo and Tremors: The Series had. Here are the top 10 sci-fi shows for 4/7/03 - 4/13/03
Source: Nielsen Galaxy Report, http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/

Scare Tactics 1.4
Riverworld 1.4
Red Planet 1.4
Tremors: The Series 1.3
Stargate SG-1 1.2
Battlefield Earth 1.0
Cleopatra 2525 0.9
Wing Commander 0.7
Beyond Belief 0.7
Roar 0.6 That is certainly interesting indeed. BOP would easily be their highest rated show. I didn' t realize Sci-Fi got THAT low of ratings.

[SevenSlave]

Each ratings point represents a certain number of CABLE viewers.

I'd like to think that BOP would be a lot more accessible to the masses than "Tremors: The Series". :rolleyes:

[AshDinaRachLvr]

Yeah, I should say so! They should just buy the damn series already!!!!!!!!!!!! COME ON SKIFFY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kea]

LOL glad you like the idea Darkstryke. My friends are always joking about all the story ideas I have.
I actually think it would be an interesting Bop made for TV movie. You have an explanation of everything that has lead up to it. No major flashbacks. You can see Dinah on occasions maybe thinking about what Helena and Barbara are doing. Man now I just have to write that fic!

[cateyes]

Alright, 2 comments:
1) will people PLEEEEZ get back on topic! This thread is about SciFi and BOP, not Nightwing

2)Why does everyone try to put Nightwing into the BOP picture? He has nothing to do with the show! Nightwing, it seems, didn't even exist in this universe!

[DBZ_EXP]

Question!

This thread was started almost a month ago. Where is the evidence?

You'd think if the rumor was true there would be proof by know, wouldn't there.

[SevenSlave]

We don't know when Skiffy receives their budget for the coming year.

We may not hear anything until after May sweeps -- or this fall, even.

We must be patient ... and keep the pressure on.

[LisaM]

Not to mention the fact that Sci-Fi itself is up for sale. Vivendi just hired a major investment banking firm to coordinate the sale of its assets.

I'm still a skeptic...Until we see something in print from a reputable media source, I won't believe any rumors.

[DrayvensCrow]

Originally posted by cateyes
Alright, 2 comments:
1) will people PLEEEEZ get back on topic! This thread is about SciFi and BOP, not Nightwing

2)Why does everyone try to put Nightwing into the BOP picture? He has nothing to do with the show! Nightwing, it seems, didn't even exist in this universe!

Well, actually he does, though not mentioned by NW. Alfred only refers to him by "Master Richard" (the nickname for Richard, actually, but it will get censored by the server if I try it.) The reason he is brought up is to be BG's love interest.

[Sxygrrl Huntress]

No, the censor doesn't block it. Master Dick was what Alfred said. (unless the censor has a delayed reaction, as I post this, the word shows up.)

[DrayvensCrow]

^:p

[o.Oracle.o]

I'm feeling sketchy about this whole sci-fi picking up BOP thing, it has been quite awhile...and it's towards the end of May...Oh well, there is always hope!
BOP=Bitchin' Opressed People! Buy the show already!
:-D

[BopRockMyWorld]

i dont think scifi pick up the show. because somebody in the wb boards said that no network picked it up

[SevenSlave]

(1) It's still early.
(2) Skiffy is in the process of being sold; I doubt they're doing ANY deals right now (The latest reports have NBC and Liberty Media being the leading bidders for Skiffy and its sister station, USA Network).

***sigh***

All we can do is wait and see.

[DBZ_EXP]

I, this is just my feeling on the subject, think it is not picked up. There would have been more then the old rumor by now.

[SevenSlave]

Let's not panic, people.

The campaign has a ways to go yet.

Our forces are legion ... and global. It's just a matter of time before it gets picked up.

[FinalDistance0]

I actually think the show would be exceptionally better without the Blonde (sorry, I copmletely forgot her name. oh. Rachel.) Well, she had an exceptionally large Forehead, and she should be replaced. Although they could easily work something together if the only returning cast was Ashly, Shamaar, and Ian. Something along the lines of "death or people moving on." you know how it is. They could bring on new characters to complete the BOP. Like they did with Spider Girl. in the comics. It was like the Next Generation of superheroes. Although Ashley's character would definitely need a parental figure along the lines of Oracle... and Alfred could use some more screen time. Okay, bring Catwoman Back. Say she never actually died and had gone into hiding back in Old Gotham. and bring on Dina's mother, Siren (or whatever her name was.) Oh, and replace Mia with the woman who originally played Harley. I downloaded the original episode that had that black haired woman in it. She was much better, I'll tell you that.
AND I WANT THE BOP ON DVD. What can we do to get it there?

[Reese'Girl]

well first of all, WELCOME!!!! second of all I'll have to agree with you, Rachel would not have been my choice to play Dinah had I had the chance to choose the cast. But she has become part of the cast and it just wouldn't be the same without her or any other members of the cast. Catwoman would not be able to return because she was stabbed to death right in front of Helena's eyes so there is no possiblilty for that ever happening. Dinah's mom, Black Canary, was also killed in episode 5 'Sins of the mother' so there would be no possibility of her returning either. As far as a DVD, we all want a DVD of BOP but for the time being we'll have to settle with our tapes.

p.s I sent you a PM (private message) FinalDistance, it should be on the bottom of the screen on the main forum page. Enjoy your stay here at BOPO!

[LisaM]

Welcome, FinalDistance0!

Please feel free to post your thoughts with two exceptions:

1. No negative personal comments about any of the actors.
2. No bashing of the show or the posters on this Forum.

[GL2814]

Sorry I'm late but, does this mean we finally won?

[Starkat]

I hope they bought it.... but I'm just not sure what to believe...

BOP ROX 4EVER!!!!!!

[LisaM]

As I have said before, unless and until we see an official announcement in writing...we should believe that nothing has occurred.

[StoyBoy720]

Originally posted by Reese'Girl
Dinah's mom, Black Canary, was also killed in episode 5 'Sins of the mother' so there would be no possibility of her returning either.

Actually, the difference between Selina Kyle's death and the Black Canary's death was that you never actually saw Canary die. You saw the explosion, but keep in mind Al Hawke survived, why couldn't Black Canary survive?

When I first saw the episode (before news of cancellation) I was pretty sure they'd bring Canary back in a later episode.

[tnewebmaster]

i also believed that they would bring Black Canary back, but they killed her off because Lori Loughlin wasn't positive that she was going to be returning to the set.

[FinalDistance0]

ack, that sucks. I thought they'd bring back the Canery too. She seemed like a perfect choice to bring her back. But about Catwoman, they've done things like it before. They're doing a new Catwoman movie about some other chick who becomes catwoman. Couldn't they say (like charmed) that Helena had a sister that she didn't know about (catwoman did seem kinda ho-ish, lmao). There are many possibilities.


also, does anyone knwo where I can download BOP episodes?

[tnewebmaster]

kazaa media desktop or grokster

i recommend kazaa but i also recommend that you download Ad-Ware because there is spyware with kazaa. it can't do anything if you use Ad-Ware after using kazaa.

Also, if you don't have a dsl or cable modem, the episodes will take a LONG time to download.

Both Kazaa and Ad-Ware can be downloaded for free on www.download.com

[SevenSlave]

This is the comics we're talking about here.

Each of the X-Men has "died" at least once ... and come back.

[FinalDistance0]

thanks, guys.

[Frostbite]

The only people that don't come back from the dead are sidekicks. Bucky and Robin II are two prime examples of this.

[ljnt99]

As far as bring back Black Canary.... Did they ever find the body. In some shows they will bring them back because they never had a body. If I recall right the Black Canary and Hawk was the only one left in the building when it blew up. It's been a while since I seen the eps. so I could be wrong, but we all know that Hawk lived.

[DBZ_EXP]

That is something I was thinking for the second season, but sniff sniff...

[LisaM]

Nope, they never mentioned finding Black Canary's body. I'm an old soap fan..."dead" people manage to come back to life all the time on soaps - even if the body was found. I'm convinced that, if we made it to another season of BoP, Black Canary would either have returned to New Gotham or would have been found by Oracle to have been hiding elsewhere.

[StoyBoy720]

As far as only sidekicks staying dead, two words: Gwen Stacy.

As far as Helena having a sister, I don't know if that's really a wise thing for them to do. I mean, some people found it to be a stretch for Batman and Catwoman to even have one child (even if it was based on an older Earth-2 storyline, but still). Personally I think giving Helena a sister would be too cheesy to do. A clone on the other hand. . . no j/k

[Reese'Girl]

yeah I agree Stoy, that would make it too cheesy. But how about adding another character? I personally think that would be cool. We could see some more tension between the new person and Helena like in the beginning with Dinah!

[Orcat]

*does the wave* BRING BACK BOP!!! *does the wave again*
~V~

[o.Oracle.o]

<(======Is Afraid Of The Wave But Does It Anyway! Bring Back BOP!

[FinalDistance0]

i miss this show already. And I'm on a dvd kick lately. I'm buying EVERYTHING on dvd. I even have "the glass house" on dvd. *cough* BOP ON DVD*Cough*. Maybe we can convince the WB to at least start airing the old episodes early in the morning like they do with Andromeda and Mutant X. Why can't they just put out an ANdromeda box set instead of those individual dvd's. I hope they don't do that for Mutant X, which I really want on dvd.

[AllAround-Freak]

Hey, I'm kinda new to this place and was wondering... *blushes shyly*
WHEN IS IT COMING ON? *cough, blushes shyly again*

[SevenSlave]

We're not sure.

We're not sure if the rumor is even true at the present time.

[LisaM]

Welcome All-Around Freak! (Interesting name, by the way.)

[the_watcher]

o.Oracle.o

You have such a beautiful Avatar, it's just lovely.
Great choice you made, nice taste indeed.

[cateyes]

hey, would people please stick to the rumor subject? I keep looking to see if it's verified yet, but all I keep seeing are things about dead sidekicks, etc.

[o.Oracle.o]

Thanks the_watcher!

[DBZ_EXP]

It is not, and will not be verified. It is a lie!

[cateyes]

who are you and how do you know for sure?

[o.Oracle.o]

He doesn't know for sure, and neither do we. However, there has been no confirmation, so it is safe to assume that it isn't true. =(

[SevenSlave]

Skiffy -- as a part of Vivendi Universal Entertainment, or VUE -- is in the process of being sold.

Right now, we assume THAT is taking top priority at the company. ;)

[cateyes]

well, I wouldn't anymore bank my hopes on SciFi either. DBZ_EXP was just saying it so certainly like it was a for sure negative confirmation from SciFi.

[SevenSlave]

SciFi hasn't said anything officially either way.

It's only been four months since the show went off the air; this is NOT the time to throw in the towel! (It took Sliders over a year to get renewed; Forever Knight, two years.)

How long have we been after Skiffy full-throttle ... since March? Three months is an awfully short time to be expecting results.

We've got Latin American and European campaigns that are just getting started ... let's give THEM time to work, shall we?

Rome was not built in a day! :rolleyes:

[DBZ_EXP]

Has there been anymore word on this?

[VOXMAN41]

What I'd like to know is, if it's true, why aren't any of the stars going to be a part of the new episodes? Other commitments or what?

[SevenSlave]

We haven't heard any word either way, VM.

[DBZ_EXP]

Well it's likely because the WB doesn't care.

[Girl of justice]

It`s great that the BOP may come back, but it would not be the same without Ashley, Dina, Rachel, Shemar and Ian.
It may disturb the fans.

I love the BOP with THEM!

We got to let Sci-Fi Channel know that we want the same actors too. We can fight it!

Girl of Justice

[dodobird1990]

Scifi is up for sale and MTV was thinking about buying it and if Scifi has already bought Birds Of Prey then I'm pretty sure that if MTV does buy it they will show Birds Of Prey so let's not give up.

[Batman'sCOUSIN]

Has Sci Fi already bought Birds of Prey?
Why is Sci Fi up for sale?
So if someone buys sci fi then the channel wont be on T.v anymore? Like say MTV does buy it, what will happen to the channel?

[DBZ_EXP]

Does anyone know if there has been news on any of these things?

[Latin Catwoman*]

I really want to see more BoP but I don't want another cast. And if Sci-Fi already bought Birds of Prey maybe they won't put it on air for latinamerica because we don't have a latin version of the sci-fi channel
THEY CAN'T DO THIS TO US!!!!!!:tear:

[DBZ_EXP]

There no no evidence that BoP had been sold. infact it is very unlikely.

[SevenSlave]

If there IS a deal going down, they won't tell us anything until almost prior to airtime (Television is a competitive business; it's standard practice for all parties involved to sign a non-disclosure agreement in these matters).

Furthermore, I find it rather telling that the news was originally leaked by someone whose friend worked in a post-production facility. The Birds are probably going to need some degree of p-p work prior to being aired on Skiffy (Starting with that ear-ritating alt-rock soundtrack, no doubt :rolleyes: ).

Let's just keep working ... and hope for the best. :)

[DBZ_EXP]

But as some people know the company that owns Sci-fi is up for sale because of major debt. So they won't be making purchases any time soon.

[SevenSlave]

They had enough money to make "Battlestar Galactica", "Tremors", an 8th season of "Stargate: SG-1", a, SG-1 spin-off called "Stargate: Atlantis", and a pickup of "Timecop" reruns from ABC.

Clearly, they're getting money from SOMEWHERE. :rolleyes:

From what I've read, the cable channels each have fairly healthy cash flows. They appear to be doing well financially. Apparently, Vivendi's corporate financial woes aren't having much of an impact on Skiffy's daily operations.

[merlin9943]

if this were to happen it wouldnt be the show we remember
the cast is no longer under contract
the sets are gone
so what exactly are they buying?
if they do it again they would have to retool it
the most likely thing that will happen with scifi is they may eventually air the reruns
but i doubt anything else will happen
gary

[DBZ_EXP]

Nothing, they have not, nor is there any true indication they will, buy Birds of Prey.

[SevenSlave]

I give up. :shake:

[tywayparks]

Don't give up! There's always hope! And without hope, what do you have? Hope for today, hope for tomorrow, hope for the future.

[Sxygrrl Huntress]

I think she's referring to giving up on explaining it to DBZ ;)

[SevenSlave]

Thank you, SGH. :)

[DBZ_EXP]

Don't give up, just get me proof. If there is real evidence I will believe it.

[SevenSlave]

I'd love to give you real evidence, DBZ.

Unfortunately, that is not possible right now. :shrug:

I'm sitting down here in Florida ... far removed from either NY or LA. I don't know what I can do.

If the truth be known, we don't know either way.

[DBZ_EXP]

Exactly, which is what I hae been saying. There is no evidence, therefor there is no way to know. Until there is the only thing we can think is that it hasn't been sold. And the longer it stays at the WB the less likely it is to be sold.

[SevenSlave]

For the 5000th time, it's NOT at The :curse: WB!

The WB has abandoned the show. It's not coming back in the fall ... it's not coming back at mid-season ... what reason could they possibly have for holding onto a "dud"?

Why keep a so-called "turkey" under lock-and-key?

[MUZBNUTS]

Actually, SevenSlave, DBZ is right about one thing. The WB still holds the rights to Birds of Prey. Although they have abandoned the show, they haven't sold the rights either. So, in a way, they are "holding" on to it - not to present to their veiwers at a later date, but they are holding on to the rights for some reason. Of course, that reason at this time remains a mystery. I for one do not buy the reason given in the letter we received from the WB - I really don't think anyone tried to sell the rights to the show at all.

[SevenSlave]

I don't believe that letter, either.

We don't know that. We don't know their policy in that regard.

Until we do, I say we keep the speculation to a minimum ... for the sake of maintaining our blood pressure.

[DBZ_EXP]

Originally posted by MUZBNUTS
Actually, SevenSlave, DBZ is right about one thing. The WB still holds the rights to Birds of Prey. Although they have abandoned the show, they haven't sold the rights either. So, in a way, they are "holding" on to it - not to present to their veiwers at a later date, but they are holding on to the rights for some reason. Of course, that reason at this time remains a mystery. I for one do not buy the reason given in the letter we received from the WB - I really don't think anyone tried to sell the rights to the show at all.



Okay, I was right about one thing, but was I wrong about anything. It hasn't been sold, there is no proof it will be. and the longer they have it the less likely someelse will buy it.




Ofcourse, we could start a fund to buy it from them, but I am guessing that more members will be needed for that.

[SevenSlave]

I talked to Ladarkangel over at The WB boards (She actually works for The WB).

The rights to BOP are owned by Warner Bros., Inc. and DC Comics -- NOT The WB.

Back in the 70's -- in the days when the networks were independently owned -- a single network executive could keep a program from being sold. That isn't the case any longer ... not in these days of the networks being owned by multi-national media conglomerates.

If Skiffy were to show an interest in producing the show, WBI could very well pull a Buffy maneuver and sell the show out from under The WB.

Get this through your thick skull ... TV IS A COMPETITIVE BUSINESS. Any programming decisions that are executed prior to an official announcement being made are considered trade secrets (and what network employee would risk their job spilling trade secrets?).

Neither Skiffy nor The WB owes you "evidence" until the time comes. Furthermore, what kind of "evidence" are you seeking?

I prefer to remain an optimist. The mere fact that Skiffy hasn't made an announcement YET -- especially in light of the fact that they announce all their major programming changes in either October or January -- does not mean that they haven't bought the show.

[DBZ_EXP]

First you don't have to insult people, as far as I know no one has insulted you. And if someone did I would recommand reporting it to a mod.

Second, even when things are done in secret there are leaks. Paper trails. Here there is nothing. Not to mention secrets like what you are saying are only normal for big shows, and sadly BoP never had the chance it deserved to become a big show.

[SevenSlave]

I'm sorry if I insulted you ... it was never my intention.

What kind of leaks are we talking about here ... leaks to the press?

[jaguarin]

I don't understand the WB, they have the rights of BOP, they don't use it and they don't sell it... selfish...

[SevenSlave]

You have to wonder how much THAT held up matters (A lot of Universal-related projects were put on hold because of it; just prior to to the announcement of the merger with NBC, Universal President Ron Meyer was complaining to the press about how the sale's glacial pace was affecting company morale. It was reaching a point where actors, writers, directors, and producers were all starting to think twice about putting their projects with Universal).

And as for the show, The WB can only do what Warner Bros., Inc. permits them to do.

Can we at least wait until October before jumping to conclusions? Skiffy announces major changes to its programming schedule in either October or January -- I don't see them deviating from past behavior.

It really does the campaign no good to engage in this idle speculation about the fate of the show.

I talked to Ladarkangel over on The WB boards the other day (She actually works for The WB). She told me that it's a non-issue over there right now (if that's any indication of the network's attitude towards the series).

[tnewebmaster]

A "non-issue?" What's that supposed to mean... that they no longer care about its existence or that they are putting us on hold for now. This is a crazy mixed up mess. I wish things were simple, however I doubt this will ever be an option... until Sin comes.... hehe

[SevenSlave]

I interpreted that to mean that the matter of BOP no longer concerns them.

[DrayvensCrow]

I don't remember if it was brought up, Seven, but Marvel's "stranglehold" on Skiffy is only because more of Marvel's properties were developed for TV. Before that, it was DC leading the market. True, it was only serialized movies, but.......

[bobfan22]

Well, I checked out the scifi web page and it din't say anything bout bop showing up. but I sure hope to god ur right.

[SevenSlave]

According to Variety, they're also angling for the reruns of "Smallville".

If they did pick it up, they might make the announcement along with "Smallville".

[jrosesimba]

hey seven if we e-mail them would they even answer us !!

[SevenSlave]

You can e-mail them (program@www.scifi.com).

I wouldn't count on a reply, though.

[jrosesimba]

yeah thats what i thought!!

[Meta Master]

if dina ashley and rachel are not in it i dont want it

[DBZ_EXP]

So it has been many months since I have posted on this thread, the claim of a person that it was picked up has not been shown in any media, and there is still no evidence that it might have and haven't announced it. I guess I was right.

[SevenSlave]

FACT: The Sci-Fi Channel is seeking the reruns to "Smallville". (http://www.birdsofpreyonline.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5687&highlight=SciFi+Channel+AND+Smallville) They may be going for a package deal of the Birds and "Smallville" (It would be consistent with Skiffy's past behavior: "Stargate SG-1" and LEXX were acquired in a package deal from Showtime. What's more, they've just picked up "Andromeda" and "Beastmaster" from Tribune in a package deal (http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-sfc.html?2004-01/15/12.30.sfc) ).

FACT: Universal Pictures has just optioned DC Comics' "The Psycho" as a feature film. (http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2003-10/28/09.00.film) (If Skiffy doesn't want the Birds, what is Universal -- Skiffy's parent company -- doing nosing around DC Comics? They didn't come there looking for "The Psycho" -- an obscure thirteen-year-old title with no fanbase to speak of.) Warner is clearly seeking to foster a relationship with Universal; otherwise, why else would they have permitted someone other than Warner Bros. to develop a DC property?

FACT: Sci-Fi has just lanched a new Thursday night original programming block. (http://www.birdsofpreyonline.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5999) The network is billing it as being "edgy, far less traditional, and targeted at a younger crowd". If that doesn't describe the Birds, I don't know what does.

OK, so Skiffy hasn't come out and said "We've got the Birds" ... at the same time, you've gotta admit that they've dropped some BIG hints.

[Jesse321]

The problem is that some of these "hints" while hopeful are subject to interpratation, and frankly, I would just rather they come out and say something definiative already.

[Lost Kitten]

I never actually saw anyone say why some of the original cast wouldn't come back if sci fi got BoP....And if they didn't to me it would be like bringing back Xena without Lucy and Renee so what would be the point to watching???
Has anything else been said about it yet or what????
Its the end of Jan and I saw that we should and see what is said in Jan.....Its just about the end, what the hell is up???

[SevenSlave]

Originally posted by Jesse321
The problem is that some of these "hints" while hopeful are subject to interpratation, and frankly, I would just rather they come out and say something definiative already.

Me too ...

Hell, I think that's what we're ALL waiting for.

[Jesse321]

Originally posted by Lost Kitten
I never actually saw anyone say why some of the original cast wouldn't come back if sci fi got BoP

Well, in so far as Ashley is concerned she has done a couple of semi successful movie projects, and Walkig Tall is coming out soon, so I think she will likely be getting more movie projects in the future with any luck for her.

Taking that into consideration it might be difficult to get her back if the show is resurrected, but you never know. :shrug:

[SevenSlave]

She likes the part (She said as much to Femme Fatale magazine).

[MUZBNUTS]

Liking the part and outrgrowing it are two different things. I really don't believe any of the cast would come back if they brought BOP back as a series. They might do a movie of the week thing, but I doubt you could lure Dina Meyer or Rachel Skarsden back for a regular series.

[SevenSlave]

I won't deny the possibility of a recast.

She might come back if Skiffy films in Toronto (Did she not say that she was homesick?)

Re: college ... the producers of "Roseanne" faced a similar situation when Sara Gilbert wanted to attend college. She was given time off to go to school (She went on to graduate with honors from Yale University in 1997).

These things CAN be negotiated.

[The Godfather]

Me I'd need Ashley for the show to go on. I want the whole cast but Huntress being my favorite...yeah...

-Shawn

[DBZ_EXP]

Hey Seven where is any of it linked to BoP. The closest it the thursday time slot, but that can describe hundreds of shows not just BoP.

You still have yet to have a single shred of evidence, and that is because sci fi (as much as I wish they had) has NOT picked up BoP. Your facts have nothing to do with BoP, only your speculation has to do with BoP.



And on the subject of the cast, I think we should get the show back on the air before we worry about who would come back.



GStB!

[MUZBNUTS]

I have to agree with DBZ there.

FACT: The Sci-Fi Channel is seeking the reruns to "Smallville".

Yes, they do tend to buy in pairs, but nowhere does it say that Birds of Prey will be the second show of the pair.

Universal Pictures has just optioned DC Comics' "The Psycho" as a feature film.

This is nothing new. Sci-fi has been showing comic-based movies for years - Darkman, Rocketeer, etc. Universal is always looking for new ideas...things that other people wouldn't ordinarily touch but have potential for great box office success. Comic book hero movies happen to be the fad lately.

Sci-Fi has just lanched a new Thursday night original programming block

And what you are saying Scifi is describing it as fits Smallville to a "T". In fact, I believe that was the way the WB toted Smallville back in the day.

I'm afraid this is a case of wishful interpretation here. I'll have to see it to believe it. For now, I have no faith in Scifi's picking up BOP. At least the WB acknowleged the campaign stuff we sent. They sent it back - with a pretty lousy letter attached - but at least they acknowledged it. Nothing was said about the stuff we sent Scifi. Not even a note or an email telling us they received it (good thing I had it tracked, otherwise we'd never know it got there). It's good to keep hope alive, but I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you - you'd end up passing out long before BOP makes a return.

[DBZ_EXP]

Thank You MUZBNUTS

And you are absolutely right about Smallville fitting the describtion, I am wondering why I didn't put that together (but I would put money on that being it, it not a new show alltogether)

We all have our own speculations, but if anyone has EVIDENCE please let me know.

[SevenSlave]

"Smallville" ... EDGY?! Gimme a break. :shake:

When I said "young", I doubt they meant teenagers ... and "Smallville" is DEFINITELY geared towards teenagers (Why else do you think they've got Tom Welling going on TRL? ).

We're talking about a super-powered Dawson's Creek!

What's more, Sci-Fi normally airs reruns that are longer than two seasons (Roswell, X-Files, Knight Rider, etc.) five days a week and earlier in the afternoon/evening. To air 44+ eps worth of "Smallville" reruns once a week on Thursdays would be out of character for the network.

I think it's equally speculative to say that they DON'T have BOP and/or don't want it. They may have it but keeping quiet about it at this time (due to the politics involved).

Sci-fi normally targets an older demographic (18-45). Even its so-called "younger skewing" shows are NOT for kids (cf., "Scare Tactics"). Both in terms of demographics and number of eps (presently), BOP would be a better fit for Thursday than "Smallville".

[Jesse321]

Originally posted by SevenSlave
We're talking about a super-powered Dawson's Creek!

Sci-fi normally targets an older demographic (18-45). Even its so-called "younger skewing" shows are NOT for kids (cf., "Scare Tactics"). Both in terms of demographics and number of eps (presently), BOP would be a better fit for Thursday than "Smallville".

:offtopic:

Okay, I for one and getting sick of the comparisons between DC and Smallville ... DC was CRAP, TOTAL and ABSOLUTE CRAP, after watching only one season, it was amazing to me that the whole freaknig town wasn't dying of venerial diseases and from everything I ever heard of the show, that's all it ever involved.

The first season of Smallville, did follow a "freak of the week" format that did get boring after a while, but as an avid comicbook reader, I honestly have to say the second and third seasons have been brilliant. Are they in total continuity with the books .. hell no, but I have to tell you Smallville provides a more pleasant and stucturally consistant alternative to the Superman mythos than BOP ever did to Batman's.

*****************

Back on topic ...

While I agree that skiffy does have patterns it normally follows, all of this is only speculation, we have no hard facts on anything. And frankly I think that both Smallville and BOP would be a "good fit" for Sci-fi, but taking into consideration there were only 13 episodes of BOP produced, Smallville would seem to be a better long term investment.

[SevenSlave]

I'm just saying that I doubt they're going to put it on Thursday.

There's still the unresolved question of "If Skiffy doesn't want the Birds, what is Universal -- Skiffy's parent company -- doing nosing around DC Comics?"

[MUZBNUTS]

As I said before and will repeat for your benefit, Universal is looking at DC Comics because all of the major movie labels are looking at either DC or Marvel for new comic book hero ideas to take to the screen. Where on earth do you get the idea that just because they are looking at a concept for a movie in DC Comics, they are interested in Birds of Prey? I think you're stretching things waaaaay to much.

[SevenSlave]

When's the last time -- in recent memory -- a DC property was produced by someone OTHER than Warner Bros. ?

Warner Bros. owns DC Comics. For all intents and purposes, DC is Warner Bros.'s de facto private library; for as long as I can remember, Warner has never permitted another studio to option DC characters. AFAIK, that policy has not changed.

If what you say is the case, every studio in town would be walking away with options on DC properties en masse. I don't see that happening yet.

[Jesse321]

Birds is hardly the only concept that DC owns, DC recently bought out the rights to Richard and Wendy Pini's Elfquest which was supposed to have had an animated movie project in production some time ago. DC also owns Legion of Superheros which was being considered for animation until they came up with that HORRIBLE version of the Teen Titans .. thre members of the Legion even guest-stared on an episode of the animated Superman show.

And currently Justice League and Teen Titans is being produced by Cartoon Network .. I don't know who the parent company of CN is though.

[SevenSlave]

^ CN is owned by Time Warner.

[srfrgrl]

Let me say that I for one am sick and tired of people presenting their own speculation as fact. It gives false hopes and starts the WB board rumor mill and causes headaches and heartache to all involved.

Seven, I know you really want the show back and are very passionate about the campaign, but please present facts not fiction!!!

[SevenSlave]

I'm sorry if I've caused any trouble.

It's very demoralizing for someone to say, "We haven't heard anything ... that means they don't have it and/or they don't want it." Nobody here knows what's REALLY going on inside Skiffy. Such speculation can plunge a knife into the heart of a campaign; it can spark a mass exodus.

If you're worn out and tired of fighting, fine. No one is going to stop you. Just don't make the job for those of us who are still fighting more difficult.

Can we close this thread please? There's been enough bloodshed here as is, IMO.