Superman, what will happen?

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For those of you who don't know,

1 the sun is red
2 superman is in a suit in orbit keeping him alive
3 He was trapped by the new Zod
4 this new Zod is a human with all of sups. powers, but is powered by red sun light (thus the sun is presently red)
5 Zod, pretending to be superman (he had his appearence altered), now has control of all US military.

I mentioned in another thread who I believe will show up, and stop Zod. My question now is how do you all think this new Zod will be stopped.

[Frostbite]

I'm sure the sun will turn yellow again. It always does.

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If you have any questions, or need any info before you give your opinion, just ask.

[2face]

Where am Bizarro?

[DBZ_EXP]

First, he would phrase it "where am not Bizzaro".

And the last time I REMEMBER seeing him was at zods party mourning those who died during "OUR WORLDS AT WAR" Superman saved him and they left. Where he went I do not know, but he would not go against Zod. Zod had tortured him, pretending he was superman, He had apperently had him for a long time and was surprised that B was still alive. B just wanted to run from Zod when he was saved.

[Jesse321]

The only reason I'm picking up Superman now is to see the "new" Supergirl ... once thats resolved ... unless they bring Linda or Kara back .. I ain't interested .. but thats just me.

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Sorry I didn't see your reply Frostbite
"I'm sure the sun will turn yellow again. It always does."

Because of a disease that Zod engineered with Kryptonian DNA, approximatly 1 out of every 1000 are having there meta gene activated an hour (Instead of 1 out of 5,000,000 or something a year like it was) Most of which are cannot control themselves.

The mutation the disease causes is powered by the yellow sun, which is why the world put these machines in close orbit to the sun that changes the light from yellow to red.

Also the disease infect those whose meta genes are already activated, so all the worlds heros have lost there special powers, if they had any.

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SO that means the JLA only funtioning members are Green Lantren, Batman, and the Martian Manhunter.

GL has no powers, but a power ring.
Batman never had powers.
MM is not humanm and his powers are natural for martians. That is just how they evolved.

[Jesse321]

This was orginally an Elseworlds story thats been rehashed into the current book ... and by the way X-men did it first which is why Colossus is dead in the Marvel books.

[DBZ_EXP]

Yes but who will save the day, and before anyone says it Lex Lurthor is being held by Zod.

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Okay I was wrong, but the show isn't over yet.

I will now reveal who I thought it would be to save the day, and stop Zod, but first the new facts,
1 Lex escaped
2 He saved sups
3 they have an army of prisoners from the moon.

This is much different then I thought it would be, weather thats good or bad is everyones own opinion, but I digress.

First why I believe this person was going to stop Zod.

One word "Kancer", okay maybe that needs a few more words. When Losi traked down where the kyrptonite nanobot was made it led her to a group called something like Guild of Assassins.

One of the assassins said that they did not create the nanomachine, but someone had bypassed their security and made it with their technologies. He also said their master would very much like to find Who had done this and kill them for this.

Zod recently told Superman about his life and it was revealed he was the one who, either created Kancer or ordered it's creation. So the master of the Guild want Zod dead.

As you can now guess, I belived it would be the Guilds master who would stop Zod.

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What you want to know who the Guilds master is, who could I belive is powerful enough to stop Zod, who could be smart enough to stop Zod?


RA'S AL GHUL !!

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RA'S AL GHUL !! didn't do it, ok. I already stated this.

But He did swear he would destroy the one who used him, well his personal resources without permission. So how can he get revenge on Zod now that Zod is dead, again.

[Red Mask]

Jaysus! Things sure have changed since I read the comics years ago. Now DC is completely using Marvel's mutant concept to create metahumans. What's going on over there?

[Frostbite]

Metahumans have been around before mutants.

[Jesse321]

Actually FB .. no they weren't ... the term "metahuman" wasn't even coined until post crisis continuity which even by a strech puts it around the early 80's (though I acutally think that mid to late 80's would be more accurate) ... the term "mutant" has been around since introduction of the X-Men in the early 60's.

And the only concept, I can even remotely attibute to "metahuman" powers before the COIE would likely be The Legion of Superheros but (1) they NEVER once used the term metahuman and (2) they are all aliens and the entire populations of thier planets have the same abilities so they could hardly be termed as metas.

All the early DC heros were either aliens, such as Superman, or had aquired powers such as Green Lantern through his ring, or Flash with the "chemical hard water explosion" or the Atom with the miniature white dwarf fragment, Wonder Woman who was given her powers by the Greek Gods, Aquaman who was born half Atlantian, Hawkman was given flight by Nth metal, even Plastic Man wasn't really a meta.

I can't really count mystics like Dr. Fate, Zatanna, as they derive thier powers from magic, so did Capt. Marvel really, or heros like the Red Tornado since he's an Andriod.

In this one instance Marvel does have the upper hand over DC.

[Frostbite]

I agree with you that the term "metahuman" was coined far after the whole Marvel "mutant" thing (I believe it was the Invasion storyline that ran from late 88 to early 89), but metahumans did exist. You say the LSH all got their powers because their entire planets had them. Not so. Bouncing Boy is of Earth, and he has the power to inflate himself like a baloon. Are you trying to tell me that all residents of Earth can inflate themselves like baloons?

And in the case of the all the Flashes, a normal human would've died under those circumstances. But, they had a metagene, so instead of dying, they were granted superspeed. And Poison Ivy; any normal human would've died from exposure to all that poison. But she had a metagene, so she recieved deadly saliva and immunity to poisons. And Elongated Man; he saw all the contortionists drinking Gingold Soda and being able to slightly stretch themselves. But when he drank it, since he had a metagene, he was able to stretch hundreds of feet.

I could go on and on.

[Jesse321]

Your going to have to ... because like i said before .. those powers were all AQQUIRED .. and not the result of a metagene ... the "metagene" wasn't even invented when all those stories were first written so none of those examples could be thought of as metahuman.

A metahuman is a human born with the gene who's powers manifest themselves with no outside trigger .. none of the peopel you mentioned fallinto that catagory.

Bouncing Boy got his powers becuase he drank some chemical that gave him that ability it wasn't latent in him ... as was the case with Poison Ivy, Elongated Man, Plastic Man and the original Flash (I honestly can't say about the other Flash's as i'm not familiar with those stories.) ... but as for the rest it had nothing to do with any latent metagene ... it was the chemicals and the events.

You better go back and do some re-reading.

[Frostbite]

They were acquired because they had the metagene. If any normal human were exposed to hard water or drowned in poison, they would die. But the characters didn't die because they had the metagene! In Invasion #3, when the bomb that harmed metahumans went off, it harmed Elongated Man! Why? Because he's a metahuman! Certainly no one had thought up the metagene until the late eighties, but it still existed! The All-Star Squadron wasn't thought up until like 1983 or so, but that doesn't mean it didn't exist in the 1940s! Understand?

[Jesse321]

The All Star Squadren is simply a story set in a earlier time .. it has nothing to do with what we are talking about.

Mutants or Metahumans are born with the gene .. you can't go back and simply re-write history to make it convienent for you .. those stories all stand on thier own ... the only reason EM was effected was because his body was changed by the Gingold ergo he was MADE meta !

I'll grant you ... the metagene probably did exist back then .. but those examples don't fit the criteria ... DC (unlike Marvel) has 99.9% of the time always found ways to explain how thier heros got there powers .. it was only recently that meta powers started manifesting themselves with no outside trigger as they are handled in the Marvel Universe .. and DC did copy that !!

For example ... Spiderman ... his powers came from the radio active spider vemon when he was bitten in the lab .. does that make him a mutant .. NO .. those powers weren't in him .. they were the result of the introduction of an outside source ... could he have had some sort of gene in him .. maybe .. but thats not how it was written ... same goes for Bouncing Boy, Plastic Man etc. etc. etc.

And personally if you ask me if EM or PI are true metas .. I have to say no ... they are altered or enhanced humans IMO ... same goes for Mr. Freeze, Cheetah, Dr. Light etc. etc. more than likely the condition or chemical that got them that way could be reversed and they could be made human again ... a natural born meta can't.

[Tobberoth]

But hey, what´s the difference between mutants and metahumans?
They are just people with strange DNA, correct?

[Jesse321]

There really isn't a difference Tobber .. its just two different words used to discribe the same condition ... its basically a person that at some point in his or her life manifests a power which isn't natural to the whole human race in general.

[Batman'sCOUSIN]

Theres also " Bang baby"
- Static Shock

[Jesse321]

True BC ... but I don't think Bang Babies fall under the metahuman umbrella either ... if I remember the Static storyline correctly they all (including Static himself) gained thier powers as a result of some sort of industiral chemical accident .. so they aren't natural metas.

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But how will (Sorry orig. put wrong name) Ras get revenge now that ZOD is dead, again.