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Larry
10-28-2002, 10:14 PM
When I think of the way Barbara has been treated over the years since she made her first appearence way back in 1967, it amazes me how such a popular character like her has stood the test of time and managed to survive.
I mean, way back in the day, she was considered nothing more than a campy teeny-bopper version of Batman and when the tv series came out and she appeared in it, it just made her look seem pathetic and why not?

By the biased opinions of the majority of the men in charge of DC Comics at the time, she was an overly active, highly sexualized redhead who spent more time trying to impress Batman and Robin than in serious crime fighting. It wasn't until the seventies that she was starting to get the recognition she truly deserved and then under writers like Len Wein, Denny O'Neil, Doug Monech and so on, that Barbara Gordon really came into her own as an important part of the Batman mythos.

What really ticked me off was that way back in 1967, the writer for Detective Comics was sexist enough to not give Barbara a black belt in judo and karate. Instead, HE gave her a brown one. It just flew in the face of 1960s male egotism to have a girl earn a black belt and be considered a well trained fighter above more popular male superheroes. It took the more cultured, open minded writers of today to allow her to get the proper respect afforded to her in terms of how capable a fighter she was.

All in all, though she may not have gotten the respect of writers from the past, she certainly can be respected and admired by writers of today for the kind of permanent fixture she has earned in the Batman mythos. There will never be another character like her and I hope she will remain in the imagination of comic book readers to come.

Neptune's Rose
11-15-2002, 02:00 PM
Wow you sure know your Batgirl history larterx1 (or is it larry??). I agree with your stance on this. The writers form back in the day didn't take babs or many other women characters for that matter seriously. Most of them came about as counterparts to the male superheros. For example BATgirl, and SUPERgirl to name a few...
But I think batgirl paved the way for women superheros who stand out on thier own. (ie-Xena, Witchblade, and Buffy)and who don't owe thier existence to a male character...

nwgurl
11-15-2002, 02:59 PM
I really hate what happened to Batgirl around the 1980s too. At least in the 60s no matter how sexist it was she was around and well known, but in the 80s Dick joined the Teen Titans and all the other stuff were going around but Batgirl was kind of like a leftover character who they didn't know what to do about, so they paralyze her in 'The Killing Joke'. Thanks to Chuck Dixon he revived Barbara again and used her in many of his stuff especially with BoP comics. Now she's back and better than ever.

Larry
11-15-2002, 05:00 PM
That's what happens when you have a character that most male writers with no real three dimensional view on women can't deal with. Only after thirty years did Barbara Gordon get a real history written for her and a chance to become a real character, only after she got shot by the grinning S.O.B, The Joker.

Larry
11-15-2002, 05:05 PM
Oh, by the way, Neptunekix, just call me Larry. I'm really not liking my username for the forum. :)

EKATZ
01-23-2003, 06:41 PM
We may still read her trading card over at http://www.thewb.com/Popups/TradingCard/0,12798,2,00.html.

LisaM
01-23-2003, 08:39 PM
Larry, if you want to change your user name, send me a PM. It is simple to do.

Frostbite
01-23-2003, 08:44 PM
No, his username was already changed, remember? It used to be larterx or something. He had that name when he posted that message.