Huntress' Differences

[Strike Black]

What are the exact differences between the Huntress from the BoP TV show and the comic book?

[jaguarin]

Just a few things, jesse will help you more:

*Costume
*Physical
*Huntres on TV is half-human/half meta

[Strike Black]

What is she in the comic bokk- meta-wise?

[Strike Black]

bokk=book

[kryptonite785]

Huntress from DC is not Batman and Catwoman's daughter. She is the daughter of the head of a major mob family, and her name is Helena Barberelli or something (oops)

She's not a recognized member of the Birds of Prey (she makes guest appearances)

And she doesn't work at Dark Horse....:)

BTW, Strike Black, the edit button under your post allows you to edit your posts.

[Strike Black]

Cool thanks! :)

[DrayvensCrow]

I can help you here. Helena Bertanelli is Huntress in the DC universe. Helena Kyle is BoP Huntress. Bats doesn't get along with DCHuntress very well, BoPBats is Helena's father. A good thing to do is go down to your fav comic shop and pick up a copy of BoP and look at the differences.

[kryptonite785]

BERTANELLI! There we go!

[DrayvensCrow]

Just think of Valerie....LOL :p

[Strike Black]

I have the first "book colection" and it was confusing.

[Jesse321]

According to what I have been reading .. the Huntress will be a regular member of the DC BOP team when Gail and Ed take over the book.

Another difference is that neither DC versions of the Huntress was ever meta-human ... thats something the show added. And by the way .. HALF meta .. there is no such thing ... maybe only one of the parents had meta-human powers .. but if you have powers of any kind your META period !!

There was a short time in the last Catwoman series where they HINTED that CW was meta but they dropped it quickly.

Here is a REALLY good websight for both PRE and POST crisis Huntress information:

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/6742/

[Impulse]

Helena Bertenelli was the daughter of a crime family (like Reese in the show) anyway, someone (I dunno who) was hired to kill the Bertenelli family but leave Helena's sister alive, but the assassin mistaked Helena for her sister and she was left alive.

She became a school teacher by day (like B. Gordon in the show) and by night, she was a vigilante. Though she was different from the others, she killed people. Unlike the Huntress in the show, she used a crossbow, a weapon, in the show, Helena just used her fists.

Oracle never trusted Huntress in the comic books, but in BoP comics, Oracle calls Huntress to help her save Dinah. Anyway, Oracle describes Helena's (comics) "vigilante duties" as a vendetta for vengeance against the murderers of her parents. As Dray said, Batman never trusted Huntress in the comics.

Though, in No Man's Land (the graphic novels) Huntress sacrifices herself for the people of Gotham. Batman then is nice to her, sort of.

That's all I know. I did some research as well.

[Batman'sCOUSIN]

WOW! AND I ONLY KNEW HALF OF THAT. I THOUGHT I WAS THE MOST CRAZED FAN. ......................WAIT! I STILL AM. YAY!!!!!!

[Jesse321]

Impulse ... no offense .. but some of your facts a messed up ..

The person who did the hiring turned out to be her own biological father ... who tried to blackmail her into being an assassin for him .. Helena told one of the "God-Fathers" of the 5 families (who just happend to be her uncle) who it was that killed his sister (her mother) ... knowing full well he would want to take revenge on him .. its still unclear if she asked the GF to kill him and take the rap for it ... or if just telling him he took it upon himself to do the deed .... but either way she didn't do the actual killing .. all of this was covered in Batman / Huntress .. Cry for Blood.

And it wasn't Helena's sister ... it was Helena's MOTHER who was supposed to remain alive .. but the assasins misunderstood the orders .. they were told to leave "the girl" alive they took that to mean Helena.

Huntress has NEVER killed anyone ... she argues for it but like the old saying goes "she is all bark an no bite." Batman belieives that she is overly agressive and VERY angry .. in my opinon someone who lives in a glass house shouldn't throw stones ... if you know what I mean.

Huntress didn't "sacrafice herself"" saying that implies she died .. what happened was ... she took 6 or 7 bullets from the Joker point blank in order to protect a make-shift orphanage which had dozens of kids that the Joker intended to kill.

[Frostbite]

Originally posted by Jesse321
The person who did the hiring turned out to be her own biological father
Wait! So she's not really a Bertinelli? That makes my Bertinelli Family Tree (http://geocities.com/bopfamilytree/hunt.html) inaccurate. Who's her real father?

[Jesse321]

She's a Bertinelli by her mother ... so its not inaccurate.

[Impulse]

Ohhh! I get it now, thanks, Jesse. She would've died in No Man's Land if she'd taken a few more bullets, I bet. I mean, the description in the book was brutal, blood on the snow. Yuck.

[Jesse321]

Impulse ... she probably would have died ... but for two things .. her old costume was made with kevlar .. while some of the bullets did penetrate .. the Joker was shotting for her gut more than likely missing vital organs ... also Batman and Nightwing got there just as it was going down .. so they helped by giving her lifesaving first aid and they got her to Leslie in time to save what they couldn't.

[Frostbite]

Originally posted by Jesse321
She's a Bertinelli by her mother ... so its not inaccurate.
I thought her mother was a Panessa.

[Impulse]

Yeah, I remember. You'd think Joker would have enough experience with Babs to shoot where it matters. But you can never understand Mr. J.

[Jesse321]

Originally posted by Frostbite
I thought her mother was a Panessa.

Here we go again ... her mother WAS a Panessa by birth ... but she was a Bertinelli by marriage ... when Helena was born her mother was a Bertinelli ... so that makes Helena a Bertinelli regardless of her biological heritage.

While Helena officially carries no direct Bertinelli blood .. she is still the only heir and the only member of the family left carrying the name.

And these facts are not known to any one in the 5 families as far as anyone knows .. in so far as anyone in the mob is concerned .. Helena is the last of the Bertinelli's

Get it ?

[Frostbite]

So who's Helena's real father?

[Jesse321]

I have to go into my garage and pull the books cause I cna't remember his name off the top of my head .. but it came on in the final two issues of Batman Huntress .. Cry for Blood.

I'll try to pull them tomorrow and get you the name.

[Kea]

Jesse what would we do without you! :)
Now I can't wait to read my Batman / Huntress: Cry for Blood.

[Jesse321]

Kea .. believe you me .. I've had my knowledge tested by these guys on more than one occasion ... and I've been wrong several times .. so I'm far from infalable.

But I think you will like CFB ... tis a great read ... I konw its available in a graphic novel format which is probably cheaper than getting the 6 books ... some of which might be hard to find anyway.

[Kea]

LOL.
Well then Jesse let me ask you an easy question
-What comic did Huntress get shot by the joker? (was it No Man's Land or not?) I'm really new to this sorry!
-Also what did you think of the huntress comic series (#1-19)

And I agree I ordered the graphic novel format for cry for blood. I should get it sometime this week! Can't wait!
Now I just have to find a comic book store by me that actually carries the Bop action figure set! ;) Then I will be all set to go!

[Jesse321]

It was the latter part of No Man's Land.

As far as the Series goes .. I thought it was okay .. I'm not a huge fan of Joe Staton even though he did create the charactor visually ... I wish someone else would have drawn it. And to be perfectly frank .. I HATE the new costume that Jim Lee designed .. after seeing everyone else draw it the only one that can make it look right is him .. I want the original costume back ... though I do like the current mask .. they can keep that.

There have been some recent mni-series featuring the Huntress like Cry For Blood and Nightwing / Huntress which have been much better IMO ... I think the problem with the Huntress is that most people are really afraid to use her and they aren't sure where she really fits into the Batman mythos. I'm hoping that Gail and Ed will resolved this problem and give her some juicy storys in the BOP books coming up ... she is a great charactor which I think has NEVER been used to her full potencial.

[Kea]

Thanks.

Yes I have seen the Nightwing/Huntress one around.
I know the list of comics I must check out is getting longer and longer by the day.
I know I am looking forward to the Bop SECRET FILES 2003 and #57 one as well. And just from reading these threads and checking out some of the websites the character of Huntress sounds really interesting. Here's hoping they will used her more.

Edited to say: I'll let you know what I think of Cry for blood! :)

[Jesse321]

I would say that issue 57 of BOP would be a good starting point for anyone that hasn't read the books before ... I'm sure if Gail is worth her salt she will add in some flash back references because she will want to attract new readers and this is the perfect jump point for them.

I'm sure you will like it ... the art is kind of weak but the story makes up for it.

Personally ... I can always over look mediocore .. or even bad art .. but if its a lousy story .. I don't care how good the art is I won't bother picking up the books.

[jaguarin]

I insist, jesse is a Walking Comic Library... :D I copy all your answers always... :p

[Kea]

And seeing as how Bop is a cult hit I'm sure a lot more fans will check out the comics. (While of course keeping the show separate from the comics!) :)

Now if only they would also make the Bop comic that was based on the show! Ah one can dream!

But I agree with you a strong story line is a must! I have put a few books aside just because they were down right bad!

[Kea]

Ok I just read cry for blood. Wow I really liked it! I think I have to read no man's land next!
I few things I found interesting while reading this comic.
First I don't know why people keep calling her a killer.
And the end is she taking a break from being huntress or what?
Also who is the question?

Thanks!

[Jesse321]

OKAY in order ...

FB ... Helena's biological father is Santo Cassamento .. she also has a half brother named Mario.

Kea ... she's not a killer ... just a hot head with a bad rep ... at the end of the story .. no she isn't .. (it took me a while to figure it out myself) remember that Don Cassamento told her to come in costume ... she was only wearing the mask and cape .. look at the way she covered herself up ... she knew what was going to happen ... so she just ditched the portion of the costume she was wearing.

QUESTION, THE

First Appearance: Blue Beetle [Charlton] #1 (1967)

Hub City investigative reporter Vic Sage (née Charles Victor Szasz) chose to strike back against those immune from exposure on his programme as a vigilante operating outside Hub's corrupt systems. Disguising himself with a mask which makes it look as though he has no facial features, the Question is an accomplished martial artist, trained by Richard Dragon. He has recently begun a friendship with Gotham City's fiery costumed hero the Huntress.

[Kea]

Oh yeah I liked the twist that her biological father was framing her. I liked that!

I figured that she just had a bad rap. I was just surprised when they say she's a killer! I was like 'where is the proof of that!'

I did notice that at the end you only see her with her mask and cape and that was it. Makes sense!

I must say I've never really read many comics before. Maybe a star trek one here and there and that was it! But I really liked this one. I am in the middle of the Bop Oracle/black canary one! (Oracle is too funny and well it looks like almost everyone knows Black Canary is Dinah lance!) I can't wait to read more. (Action figures are also a must now!) :)

[Jesse321]

LOL ... she's hooked !

[Kea]

Oh yeah! :D