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Jesse321
08-29-2003, 12:04 PM
According to a three page artical in October's Wizard Greg Rucka plans a MAJOR revamp of WW starting with issue 196.

Wonder Woman has always bee knows for some lame lightweight villians .. thats about to change .. she will also be tackling lightning-rod type topics such as homosexuality, rape and the death penalty.

I'll see if I can find the artical online and post it here, for those who might not read Wizard on a regular basis.


WONDER BRED
Wizard Universe presents an exclusive preview of Wonder Woman 196


Turning a six-decade-old icon into something revolutionary and fresh is a job few creators would want, but writer Greg Rucka (Wolverine) and artist Drew Johnson (G.I. Joe: Frontline) have a simple plan—make Wonder Woman the most relevant series since…well….Wonder Woman. The new creative team wants to return Wonder Woman to her core roots, when she was a groundbreaking and controversial female character, and put the book on every fan’s pull list.

“I really want to do right by her,” says Rucka of the character he’s begged to write for over three years. “It really bothers me that she’s never been given her due. Superman has how many titles? Batman has how many titles? Diana appears in JLA and Wonder Woman and I really absolutely, firmly, deeply believe that she deserves better. She is a unique character—there is no other Diana.”

And now you have the chance to preview Part 1 of the 5-part "Down to Earth," the first extended storyline from the new creative team of Greg Rucka, Drew Johnson, and Ray Snyder.

Here is an online 5 or 6 page preview... just click on the page once you finished it and it will take you to the next one.

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazines/wizard/WZ20030827-ww_1.cfm

Frostbite
08-29-2003, 01:31 PM
Well, I certainly like most of it, but Diana seems to have turned into another one of those, "I'm famous; I guess I'll write a book so I can make lots of money from the sales of the book," people. Such a shame.

And on a semi-related note, an issue or two ago, it showed a man getting a job working at the Themysciran embassy. If embassies are the soil of the land in which they represent, wouldn't that mean a man is stepping on Themysciran soil? And isn't that not allowed?

jaguarin
08-29-2003, 01:58 PM
WUUUU I loved that tv show... the comic sounds interesting, the true i lost the interest in it with all the disaster that the writers were doing with WW life... But will be goo read this one...

Jesse321
08-29-2003, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by Frostbite
Well, I certainly like most of it, but Diana seems to have turned into another one of those, "I'm famous; I guess I'll write a book so I can make lots of money from the sales of the book," people. Such a shame.

And on a semi-related note, an issue or two ago, it showed a man getting a job working at the Themysciran embassy. If embassies are the soil of the land in which they represent, wouldn't that mean a man is stepping on Themysciran soil? And isn't that not allowed?


I don't know where the first part of your comment even came from because thats not how Diana is at all. And frankly these new ideas that Greg is working on will finally brnig Diana into the real world of today.

As far as the second part goes ... since George Perez's relaunch and the cultural exchange programs set up by Hypolyta and Chan. Phillipus men from all over the world have been welcomed on Themyscira.

Red Mask
08-31-2003, 02:11 AM
I hope Adam Hughes still does the covers. The good thing about the WW series is that she hasn't undergone as many drastic changes as Aquaman, who has suffered terribly. And Perez and Jimenez had to work hard to fix the changes brought about by John Byrnes. But I don't know if this comic will be handling as many relevant plots as I'd like to believe. The homosexuality issue might only be lightly touched as well as the death penalty.

Jesse321
08-31-2003, 09:32 AM
Adam Hughes will still be doing the covers for the forseeable future ... as a matter of fact he did several pieces for the article.

According to the article its going to be very much more a political book as Diana will be and Amabassador to the UN and ALL the subejcts mentioned will be involved in MAJOR storylines .. not just "touched on"

And get your facts straight ... Bryne's run on the book had some of the better storylines since Perez .. who was the original by the way ... and frankly you have it backwards ... Byrne had to fix ALOT of things that Perez never introduced ... the Invisible Plane and the Original Golden Age Wonder Woman just to name two. Byrne also gave them GREAT new twists by making Hypolyta the new Golden Age WW and making the Invisible Plane capable of becoming any kind of vehichle ... and let me remind you without that, Jimenez wouldn't have had the technology to recreate Paradise Island as most of it was created with the that technology.

Jimenez figured out ways to combine Perez's, Byrne's and the TV show versions into one cohesive arc ... but not everyone liked his run on the book as a matter of fact other than the artwork alot of fans hated his writing (not me mind you)

Red Mask
08-31-2003, 12:43 PM
I will praise Byrne for his X-Men work. I will definitely praise him for his run on the Fantastic Four and Post-Crisis Superman. I will even praise him for his own personal creations including his work on Alpha Flight. But there's no way in heck I will praise him for what he did for Wonder Woman. Except for the novel. That I did enjoy. That's my stance, not facts.

Jesse321
08-31-2003, 01:37 PM
That may be your stance .... and you may not have liked it ... but the facts remain that Byrne had to fix alot of mistakes and omissions created by Perez ... and while you may have not liked it ... Byrne's run on WW has never been outsold in terms of the number of issues sold not by Perez or Jimenez.

Red Mask
10-15-2003, 08:00 AM
Hey! I read someone say that some of the Amazons have recently admitted that they are lesbians! Did that happen in Wonder Woman #196 because it's out of stock in my area!

Batman'sCOUSIN
10-15-2003, 10:22 AM
What changed about WW? Her look? Her powers? Her style? Hair? What??

Jesse321
10-15-2003, 12:26 PM
Red Mask, it hasn't happened yet, and I don't think it will be handled quite that crudely, its not being done to give the fanboys a collective woody or for the titilation factor, but yes, that is just one of the changes that wil be taking place in the series.

BC, nothing that drastic, what Greg Rucka is trying to do is give WW a place in the modern DC universe other than just being a female version of Sups. She is now an ambassador for Themysaria (i know I spelled that wrong) she works with the World Peace Organization etc.etc. greg is trying to flesh the charactor out more, so he is taking what Perez, Byrne and Jimenez have done and taking a few steps further to thier logical progressions.

Red Mask
10-15-2003, 10:17 PM
So what happened recently in issue 196? The reviews said she released a book. Some fundamentalist groups are speaking out against her worship of the Greek gods, and so on. They're bringing up some serious issues about what she has to offer to "Man's World" and women.

Jesse321
10-15-2003, 11:27 PM
Exactly, its really the same as alot of the christian and catholic based religions have against muslim and buddist based religions, Greg is just bringing that to light. Whats really sad is that most all religions are the same when you boil them down, all believe in a higher being (what each chooses to call him or her is irrelevant), all beleive in punishment for things you do wrong and rewards in the afterlife for things you do right, etc. etc. We're all actually more alike than the world would like to think, too bad more of us don't realize that.

The first book really just set up the storylines for future issues. The book that Diana released was basically a collection of essays and observations written by her regarding "Patriachs World" but like all works of literature, its subjective to the readers, so there is always going to be someone that will take offense to it, for example there are alot of Baptist and Morman churches that have banned the Harry Potter series because they beleive that it promotes witchcraft and the beleif and worship of the supernatural ... anyone that has read the series knows that NOTHING could be further from the truth.

Red Mask
10-16-2003, 12:03 AM
Oh yeah. Have you seen the number of anti-Potter books that are out there? I can't believe they even go beyond four pages just to condemn it. Those people definitely need to get out more.

I'm glad that the current storyline is addressing such issues. But now I have to try and find a copy of it around here! The things that slip by you!

Jesse321
10-16-2003, 12:09 AM
Most comic book stores will pull books for you if you are a regular customer, and just purchase a couple of books each week or each month. Also most if not all comic book stores receive new books on Wednesdays, check out the DC Comics website and on the week that your title is coming in, make an effort to go ther on that day, that way your assured gettign a copy.

Red Mask
01-01-2004, 01:31 AM
I read issue 199 today and something struck my mind. Diana said the first casualty to war is the truth. And it had certainly been a casualty in 2003. Rucka sure ain't holding back on the philosophical stuff. Maybe he should help write a script for the Wonder Woman film.

Jesse321
01-01-2004, 03:30 PM
That would be an AWESOME idea ... I appreciate writers that incorporate faith and conviction into the charactors they write, even if those convictions aren't thier own.

cateyes
01-02-2004, 05:09 PM
I don't read the comics, but I'm curious, when you say issues such as homosexuality and death penalty will be addressed, do you mean condoned, condemned, or neutrally mentioned?

Jesse321
01-02-2004, 07:43 PM
Most writers tend (or at least try) not to be judgemental when talking/writing about such issues, however they almost always preach tolerance .. what you deside to take out of the story is up to you.

Arcyrien
01-16-2004, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by Frostbite
And on a semi-related note, an issue or two ago, it showed a man getting a job working at the Themysciran embassy. If embassies are the soil of the land in which they represent, wouldn't that mean a man is stepping on Themysciran soil? And isn't that not allowed?

In such a situation, isn't that gender-bias, and does it not support the notion of excluding women from places men, in turn, do not want them?

*Says this while approving, simultaneously, of women being discouraged from being involved in certain things like dying horrifically on freezing, blood-stained battlefields*

EDIT: Regarding tolerance, perhaps sometimes one should preach a given amount of "intolerance...because some things are just plain stupid."

Red Mask
01-16-2004, 11:37 PM
It's all relative.

Jesse321
01-17-2004, 01:06 AM
The whole "men on Paradise Island" thing was resolved ages ago in the pages of WW anyway.

Jesse321
02-01-2004, 09:25 PM
I posted this in the Superhero Movie Updates thread in MNL, but thought you guys might get a kick out of this here too:

Take a look at the attached picture I found and tell me now that Terry Farrell wouldn't make an AMAZING Wonder Woman !!!

Red Mask
03-21-2004, 05:56 AM
Has anybody read the latest issue of Wonder Woman? The villainess acts like a female Lex Luthor! The strange thing is I understand her a bit. She achieved the American Dream but it wasn't good enough.