What really happened to Catwoman?

[gothamknight]

There is something that doesn't fit quite right. I just don't believe that Catwoman is dead. Let's look at the facts:

1- She was thrown out of a Tall building by her former boss.

2- She was thrown from another building this time by The Penguin.

3- She was shot four or five times at close range.

So she died from a single stabing? Are we sure she is dead? This is a meta-human who can heal very very fast. In my opinion she is alive and hidding. We got to remeber this is the Queen of the criminal underworld who gave up her criminal live for her daugther. If The Joker knew who Catwoman was then he knew she was meta-human and would have done more than send someone to stab her. Also Catwoman had to know what would happend if she returned to New Gotham; Organize Crime don't let one of their own walk away.


So this is question. Is Catwoman dead or alive? I'll tell you this; it wouldn't surprise me if Selina Kyle a.k.a. Catwoman reapears alive and well and back in New Gotham.

[AngelQueen]

Seriously, I doubt she is alive, for various reasons.

1. She obviously loved her daughter and wouldn't put Helena through that emotional torment of thinking that she was dead because Selina knew very well where it could lead to-having Helena follow in her father's footsteps.

2. She probably wouldn't want Bruce to think she was dead either. They may not have been together in who knows how long, but it was obvious that she still loved him greatly. Heck, she protected him and Batman by keeping Helena a secret from him. If he had known, both he and Helena would have been in grave danger.

3. BoP doesn't really go by the movies, but if they did, Selina was on her last life by the end of Batman Returns. So when she was stabbed, that ended her final life. She didn't have any left.

AQ

[Frostbite]

It can't go by the movies, because in the movies, the Joker is dead, Barbara is Alfred's niece, etc.

[Gothic Knight]

not all of it goes by the movies but some of it, for example the costumes of batman and catwoman we can determent a bit of the story line is basely lose on Batman Returns not all of it of course but some of it.

[Elemental]

I don't know... I think the story is better if she's dead because how many long lost/dead metahuman parents can turn up in New Gotham?

[Gothic Knight]

Hey in the world of Batman when you think someone is dead, they have the bad habit turning up alive and well. They say Catwoman is dead maybe she is but then again; Who knows?

[Frostbite]

I remember this one conversation between Superman and a minister in a Justice League comic. It went something like this:

Superman: It's sad. There were thousands of people at my funeral.
Minister: And then you came back. No one has interest in metahuman funerals anymore. They're never really dead.

[Helga_groovy]

I just have a question, how old is Alfred? No offense but he never seems to die, yet all the superheros are gone. He must be over 100 by now.

[Lady Oracle]

Seriously, I doubt she is alive, for various reasons.

That would be a topic for season 2 don`t you think?

[Frostbite]

She was stabbed. She died. Season Two does not exist.

[super85]

Helga_groovy


Nobody really ages in the Batman comics besides the sidekicks, Batman/Bruce Wayne has been 30-35 years old since 1939.

[Frostbite]

All the not-very-good superheroes from the forties are all old and senile now. It's so funny.

[TheOracle]

Originally posted by super85
Helga_groovy


Nobody really ages in the Batman comics besides the sidekicks, Batman/Bruce Wayne has been 30-35 years old since 1939.

That isn't strictly true, Batman/Brude Wayne has been portrayed as being alot older, granted they were "Elseworld" comics, but still...

[Frostbite]

Elseworlds is what you would call stories that don't actually happen. Now, of course, none of them actually happen, but Elseworlds don't happen even in the world of most of the comics. And some of them are just plain stupid.

[TheOracle]

Well, yes... I mean, a female Robin? Please!

[SpiderGurl]

Ok, Catwoman has to be dead. From the way you describe why she shouldn't, it looks to me like she already used up all of her 9 lifes. And if she used those up then just maybe she is dead. If not then why would she have left Helena? She left the crime business just for her and I don't think she would just leave her. The one thing that I think wouldn't of happen is the fact that Batman has gone insane. Batman is Batman and can't be beat. And if that is all it take to beat him then now I understand why superheros don't like having children. Well I think I tooken enough space up and have to go. Remeber the good guy never dies and when they do, it probably means the shows over.

[Gothic Knight]

When you think someone is dead they by coming back. I don't if Catwoman is dead or alive but one thing i know of she's being dead before and came back again and again. I'm not ready to count Catwoman out just as i'm not ready to count Birds of Prey out.

[PoisonIvy2]

Catwoman/Selina Kyle are both pretty unstable, Helena didn't even know that she was actually Catwoman so she hadn't really seen one half of Selina. I think it's VERY possible Catwoman did not die but at the same time it's VERY possible she did. A stab is pretty convincing but I doubt that Catwoman would go down like that. Maybe she was like Canary, the dipiction of Catwoman has always been this loose and careless young woman and when something is set in front of her as a priority and a responsiblity Selena might feel she isn't emotionally strong enough. Wouldn't it have been perfect if a woman such as Oracle with kindness, an level head, and security was able to take away the one thing Selena couldn't take care of....? Truthfully, no super villan of Batman ever dies....even the ones that love the man....

[Frostbite]

Originally posted by PoisonIvy2
Truthfully, no super villan of Batman ever dies....even the ones that love the man....

What about all the Golden Age villains that died in the Crisis of Infinite Earths?

[PoisonIvy2]

Well I havent followed the comic books forever but if you hadn't noticed, Catwoman is a main villan. Since when has a main villan be killed so easily?

[SlinkySelina]

From what I've gathered, the show is loosely following the Batman Returns area. And she was on her last life by the end because if you remember they had the bullets and the stungun kiss, which left her with one life. She could die because she might not have known about what happened with Bruce and Joker; the little clips shown have her more relaxed, casually living, and trying to give her child a "normal" life. There would be no reason for her to think she was in danger since she had been out of crime fighting since she had her daughter.

Just my casual observations.

[msugirl85]

batman returns-i watched that movie the other day-i hadn't seen it since i was really little cause my dad watched it one and i was watchin it too and the penguin scared me soooo bad that i refused to watch it ever again and then i forgot we even had it and so i decided to watch it the other day

[Terry]

i think catwomen is still alive

[Frostbite]

You are really starting to annoy me.

[Fat Elvis 007]

gothamclocktower.com sais that clayface might have something to do wih her death.

[Chow81488]

I think she is alive and she left Helena.

1) Either she didn't love her
2) Or she (like Black Canary) thought Helena was in danger and left her, with Oracle or just along.
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or she really did die!

[Gothic Knight]

Good point

[Frostbite]

No, she's dead. Her lifeless corpse was seen in the pilot episode.

[PoisonIvy2]

Yes it was...HOWEVER that was only the pilot and many things are different in a shows pilot because after it is viewed the network makes suggestions and leaves plenty of time for changes to the storyline.

[Frostbite]

Yeah, we see it both in the unaired pilot (the one they used to sell to the network), and the aired pilot (the one they edited after it was viewed by the network, after the network made suggestions). Moron.

[PoisonIvy2]

Bad tone Frostbite, I don't get why you must be so cruel in correcting me like that. You could choose a more subtle way then deciding to call a complete stranger a moron. Maybe you need fresh air and stop trying to get on everyone's ass for making minor mistakes.

[Frostbite]

That wasn't a minor mistake. I don't call people that make minors mistakes morons. But who am I to talk? Aren't we all morons in the big picture? I apologize.

[CotC]

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[PoisonIvy2]

It doesn't really matter. "Pilot" can either mean the first episode of the series or the tape sold to the WB. So in my defense, it doesn't seem to unreasonable to assume that it was the unaired pilot. I accept your apology anyways.