BirdsofPreyOnline.com - Who is Dinah's Father?

AngelQueen

11-11-2002, 08:03 PM

Well, it mainly comes from the voice tones of Hawke when he speaks with Carolyn.

HAWKE. Ah. It fills my soul with a profound inner peace to see you again, Canary.
CAROLYN. Since when do you have a soul, Hawke?
HAWKE. I found my soul the day my father left this earth.
CAROLYN. Really? Sounds more like you found the self-help section in a bookstore.
HAWKE. I watched my daddy suffer such torment after you betrayed him. I watched him lying there all alone in prison, his body broken like his spirit.

Hawke said that his father's spirit was broken after Carolyn betrayed him. That just *could* have meant that he was sad over losing what he'd worked so hard to build, but from Hawke's tone, it sounded a little more personal.

My theory is that Hawke's father might also be Dinah's father.

I could be totally wrong and out in left field, but that was the feeling I got from the way Hawke spoke about Carolyn and his father.

AQ

photoego

11-12-2002, 02:16 AM

Her father I believe is "GREEN ARROW" if the comic is followed....

Dark Phoenix II

11-12-2002, 03:20 PM

I think it would be interesting if Carolyn and Bruce had an affair and Dinah was the result. It'd be interesting if Batman returned not only to find out he had one illegit daughter, but two. Also it'd be interesting to see how Helena would react that she had her lil' sister with her all along.

Mysticks Muse

11-13-2002, 03:27 PM

On the WB Official BOP site, there is a genology. Dinah's father is listed as "Top Secret". Also on the WB site are BOP "trading cards". On the back of Dinah's card, her birthplace is listed as "Metropolis".

Cassandra Cain

11-13-2002, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by photoego
Her father I believe is "GREEN ARROW" if the comic is followed....

I thought Green Arrow and Dinah in the comics had Connor Hawke...please correct me if I'm wrong because I'm a little fuzzy on that ;)

Dark Phoenix II

11-14-2002, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by Mysticks Muse
On the WB Official BOP site, there is a genology. Dinah's father is listed as "Top Secret". Also on the WB site are BOP "trading cards". On the back of Dinah's card, her birthplace is listed as "Metropolis".

Oh great...Maybe her father's Superman or Lex Luthor...LOL

gothamknight

11-14-2002, 09:27 AM

well she is not bold so Lex is out of the question. lol

Nichol

11-14-2002, 11:12 AM

LOL to the Lex Luthor idea. Heehee. Maybe a crossover with Smallville is in the works? ;)

Seriously though, when I saw Metropolis listed as her birthplace, I considered Superman, but good ol' Lex didn't cross my mind. Supes seems a little unlikely -- he's married to Lois, isn't he? I can't imagine him messing around with Carolyn on the side.

On the subject of Dinah's father, there's a similar thread here (http://www.birdsofpreyonline.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=252). Check it out, let us know what you think.

.:Nichol:.

Theoretically, her father could've been the milkman, but then why would he be "Top Secret"?

gothamknight

11-14-2002, 11:16 AM

For the record Bruce Wayne has an apartment in Metropolis.

Frostbite

11-15-2002, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by Nichol

Theoretically, her father could've been the milkman, but then why would he be "Top Secret"?

"Top Secret" just means since Dinah's father is unknown, there might be an episode about him. No need to mess up continuity just because of some erroneous website fact.

crazy_pete

11-18-2002, 11:20 PM

Superman can't be Dinah's dad because superman is gay. Batman is a pimp. He gets all the hot chicks (I think they dig the car). He scores with all types: normal hotties, bad chicks, and even good chicks (you know he scored with Superwoman). I bet he even had a kid with Poison Ivy (I bet it's another hot chick). In summation: Who would a hot chick (named Black Canary) rather score with... a poor dude in tights that fly's around in primary colors or a super rich (but not conceated), debonair, tall, super dark dude who has a sweet car? By the way Batman and Black Canary even has similar names. Both dark flying animals.

destiny

11-21-2002, 03:15 PM

Bruce did have an apartment in Metropolis like gothamknight said. That would be very interesting if Bruce turns out to be her father and Dinah and Helena are related.

Ice Storm

12-13-2002, 01:16 AM

dinahs father is the penguin

Frostbite

12-13-2002, 02:12 PM

What?!?

G Silver

12-13-2002, 10:27 PM

W H A T ?!

bat-punk

12-13-2002, 10:49 PM

I'm Dinah's father.

Frostbite

12-13-2002, 11:25 PM

And who are you?

Ice Storm

12-14-2002, 12:56 AM

lol i was just joking

Bopfan06

12-14-2002, 08:19 AM

wtf I don't think her being born in Metropolis has anything to do with it if it did they would list it as TOP SECRET. BC could of just moved there to get away from Hawke.

Frostbite

12-14-2002, 11:43 AM

Let's review the facts: Dinah Lance Redmond is supposed to be the daughter of the current Black Canary in the comics. That Black Canary (Dinah Laurel Lance/Carolyn Lance) has dyed blonde hair. Her natural hair color is black. Her parents, Dinah Drake-Lance and Larry Lance, also had dark hair. Dark hair seems to be a dominate trait in the Lance family. Therefore, there is a good chance Dinah Redmond's father had blonde hair. Now, as someone said in another thread, it could've just been some regular guy that DLL/CL had sex with to make DLR, but who do we know that Dinah's been in love with in the past that's had blonde hair? Oliver Queen, the Green Arrow.

msugirl85

12-14-2002, 01:18 PM

very interesting frostbite

Ice Storm

12-14-2002, 01:57 PM

im very confused about blondies now

Frostbite

12-14-2002, 02:11 PM

So, it's settled that it can't be Bruce Wayne.

msugirl85

12-14-2002, 02:21 PM

yea i think so-i mean i don't think it could be bruce wayne

Ice Storm

12-14-2002, 09:18 PM

of course its not bruce wayne

Bopfan06

12-15-2002, 12:02 PM

I've never really read any comics I was just wondering if anyone could give me any info on the BC Green Arrow relationship?

Ice Storm

12-15-2002, 05:41 PM

green arrow also has a son,conner queen

bat-punk

12-16-2002, 10:59 PM

I'm Dinah's father!

Frostbite

12-17-2002, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by Ice Storm
green arrow also has a son,conner queen

Connor Hawke, not Connor Queen.

bat-punk

12-17-2002, 04:48 PM

It's not Green Arrow! I'm Dinah's father!

Chris

12-17-2002, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by bat-punk
It's not Green Arrow! I'm Dinah's father!

Yeah.. Right.
And, heh I'm her sister, brother and mother.

Frostbite

12-17-2002, 05:22 PM

And I'm the mirror she looked into during the flashback scene in the first episode!

Terry

12-17-2002, 06:07 PM

and im superman,wait yeah i am

Ice Storm

12-17-2002, 10:43 PM

Originally posted by Frostbite
Connor Hawke, not Connor Queen.

well,im not much into green arrow

Frostbite

12-18-2002, 02:10 PM

Neither am I.

bat-punk

12-18-2002, 05:10 PM

I'm Dinah's father!

Frostbite

12-18-2002, 05:17 PM

Enough with the false claims!

huntressearth2

12-20-2002, 05:41 AM

Connor Hawke is Oliver Queen's son by an affair with someone other than Dinah Lance. In the comic books, the current Black Canary could not have children. In one comic book, Dinah Lance was put into the Lazarus pool to save her life. Barbara Gordon sacrificed her own desire (to walk again) in order to save Dinah. Once Dinah came out of the pool, she not only got back her canary cry but supposedly could bear children.

Dinah Lance and Oliver Queen had a very passionate affair. He was 40 and she was 20. They did live together in an apartment above a flower shop Dinah owned. I can't remember the reason hey broke apart. Oliver was not very dependable - sort of a hothead who acted before he thought.

Bopfan06

12-20-2002, 12:33 PM

Thanx for the info =)

Phantess

12-20-2002, 05:08 PM

hey bat-punk, I want Dna proof. :)

ForeverOracle

12-20-2002, 08:17 PM

LilahMorgan, I LOVE your signature!! Can I put it in mine? Did you make it?? It's awesome!! :)

bat-punk

12-20-2002, 09:55 PM

haha,

Birdofpreyrocks

12-24-2002, 07:31 PM

Shes cool she gives off that young sister always gets in trouble bug sister has to clean it up vibe.

Birdofpreyrocks

12-24-2002, 07:40 PM

i meant big sister

Frostbite

12-24-2002, 10:48 PM

Originally posted by Birdofpreyrocks
bug sister has to clean it up vibe.

????

SevenSlave

12-25-2002, 01:12 AM

^ Typo ...

Chris

12-25-2002, 05:11 AM

I still dont get it.

msugirl85

12-26-2002, 06:43 AM

i havn't gotten in for quite a while know...ya'll kno i'm confused

Terry

12-26-2002, 05:25 PM

what,are you always confused or something

Frostbite

12-26-2002, 11:55 PM

We must all be tolerant of the confused. Someday, we might all live in peace, but it begins with you, Terry.

Neptune's Rose

12-27-2002, 12:02 AM

That's really insulting to people from the south frostbite...

Frostbite

12-27-2002, 01:03 AM

That better now?

Terry

12-27-2002, 03:31 AM

Originally posted by Frostbite
We must all be tolerant of the confused. Someday, we might all live in peace, but it begins with you, Terry.

what

Chris

12-27-2002, 05:23 AM

Taking a shot at Terry isnt fun anymore, he doesnt seem to get an insult if we shoved it down his throat.
No fun.

Fat Elvis 007

12-28-2002, 11:01 PM

peace beginning with terry? hate to see who ends it...
anyway, dinah on the show i'm pretty sure is the first B.C.s daughter.
dinah is definitely NOT the daughter of:
superman
lex luthor
batman
penguin
the milkman
bat-punk
i'm not sure about connor hawke, but what about jimmy smits as green arrow?

Svanda

12-28-2002, 11:21 PM

I was also under the impression that Dinah's Father could be Hawke's father...

Frostbite

12-29-2002, 03:27 AM

I always thought Woody Harrelson would make a good Green Arrow. Why can't Dinah's father be the milkman?

Birdofpreyrocks

12-29-2002, 09:28 PM

wouldnt that be cool if hawke turned out to be dinah dad.

MUZBNUTS

12-30-2002, 12:11 AM

That's funny! I was just aluding to that in another posting. Since the show doesn't hold to the comics, it is quite possible. Especially since Carolyn's style was to get as close to the perp as possible and then bring him down. Even funnier is the idea that Al Hawke's dad could be the father. Remember, Al Hawke said that Carolyn hurt and betrayed his father deeply. She could have gotten that close to him before she brought him down. Who knows? Maybe noone will if the WB gets its way.

Huntress23

02-12-2003, 01:04 PM

I want to know who her dad is!!! Maybe in the last episode (crying) that will be found out. they did say a lot of story lines would be figured out

huntress' prey

02-12-2003, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by Birdofpreyrocks
wouldnt that be cool if hawke's father turned out to be dinah dad.

so then she'll be Reese's aunt
right?

Dark Phoenix II

02-12-2003, 02:09 PM

I think it'd be interesting if it were Batman...Wasn't it said that BC used to be one of his sidekicks?

Frostbite

02-13-2003, 01:39 PM

Knowing the show, it'll probably be some made up metahuman hero guy.

ShadowWalker

02-15-2003, 06:51 AM

When Al Hawke told BC that she hurt his father deeply, didn't he mean that she betrayed his trust when she infiltrated his set-up?

(Sins of a Mother): - Gibson "Your mother singlehandedly brought down New Gotham's most powerful organized crime family. All these guys were into gambling, extortion, drugs, women, the usual fun and games. Canary infiltrated, became one of them - handed the D.A. an airtight case... it was... the stuff legends are made of..."

Still, maybe she got a little too close.

msugirl85

02-15-2003, 11:53 AM

i don't know. maybe hawkw maybe not. i don't think it's batman though. it's probaly like frostbite said-just some made up guy

flyin'ever

02-22-2003, 09:40 PM

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Her dad may be in someone unique and maybe have a metahuman power!!! We do not know all the family tree of Dinah. :)

Frostbite

02-22-2003, 10:53 PM

We do not know all the family tree of Dinah. We sure don't, but (it's website plugging time) here's (http://www.geocities.com/bopfamilytree/can.html) some of it.

msugirl85

02-23-2003, 03:49 PM

is that your site frostbite? they banned you?

Terry

02-23-2003, 09:43 PM

yes,they banned him

BlacCanary123

02-24-2003, 04:04 PM

I don't know who Dinah's father is. But, obviously he has telekinesis and telepathy. So he's one powerful meta. Black Canary only had the Canary Cry. on the WB.Com its only top secret because they don't know. In the Comicbooks, Dinah is much older and they don't mention the dad. But they could have. I don't know.

Dark Empress

02-24-2003, 07:15 PM

Originally posted by BlacCanary123
In the Comicbooks, Dinah is much older and they don't mention the dad. But they could have. I don't know.
in the comics dinah is the carolyn person on the show, and her father was in some comics in the 1940s but hes dead now

King

02-24-2003, 11:06 PM

Actually her father is Aquaman. It's always Aquaman.

He's blonde.
He's got superhuman DNA.
It's quite possible that over the course of her adventures BC came in contact with him.

Unless of course it's the Flash. Hell with him BC wouldn't even have known she was preggers till it was too late.

BC: *Yawns and stretches*
Flash: *WHOOSH*
BC: "What the hell was that?"

But seriously, her father most likely isn't even a metahuman and I'm willing to go even odds that BC doesn't know who the father is. Just like spy men, Spy Chicks get their fair share of hottie action as well. Probably some German guy named Gunther she met whilst on assignment to infiltrate some secret lab.

flyin'ever

02-26-2003, 06:44 PM

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peps, it won't be Aqua man cuz later he has a daughter which is not Dinah. Batman, he never shared his life with anyone maybe with Cat woman. It has to be anyone where Caro(mom) works. It has to be top secrect person. :D

flyin'ever

02-26-2003, 06:50 PM

Get Real peopl. Her father is "top secret' next to her mother. :D

Dark Empress

02-26-2003, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by flyin'ever
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peps, it won't be Aqua man cuz later he has a daughter which is not Dinah.
quit living in the 18th century, people can have children with more than one mate

Reese'Girl

03-02-2003, 08:52 AM

wouldn't it be so cool if her father was Penguin or something like that?! Maybe Robin. Nah, he's too young! LOL!

msugirl85

03-02-2003, 02:00 PM

i don't think he's anybody important in particular.

Firechild

03-03-2003, 02:32 PM

(Sins of a Mother): - Gibson "Your mother singlehandedly brought down New Gotham's most powerful organized crime family. All these guys were into gambling, extortion, drugs, women, the usual fun and games. Canary infiltrated, became one of them - handed the D.A. an airtight case... it was... the stuff legends are made of..."

if they were into women, then it wouldn't be to hard for Carolyn to get in now would it? Hawke could have fallen for her, then she got all she could out of him, (in more ways than one....) then tossed him to the wolves, AKA cops! The only thing that we don't know is how many years ago Canary spilt up the Hawkes. Sixteen is the most it can be, because that's Dinah's age. If Hawke died in prison he had to have been old. And wouldnt that make Dinah Reese's aunt or something? The years just dont add up! You would think Reese would have seen Canary around, but that would make him kinda old, if his grandfather then died in prison. But then, if Canary was trying to infiltrate, I doubt how old Hawke was mattered to her. It had to have been a long time ago, because wouldn't Reese know about it or have seen Carolyn at least once? If she was 'one of them' you would think he may have seen her... then again, his dad probably kept him in the dark for most of his life about their 'family traditions'.

CharmedPhoebe

09-30-2004, 10:58 PM

I think Dinah father is Green Arrow.

:cheers:

p3k3

10-02-2004, 12:12 AM

i think someone who know(s) the writers of thw show should just ask them to sette the issue once and or all... or someone could ask mr. ian abercrombie for a good measure if he knows... just a suggestion really

BabyComicGurl

10-02-2004, 10:42 AM

dinah's dad is larry lance a gotham police detective...in the comics dinah drake, dinah lance's mom met with him on a case or something...they hooked up liked each other and had a kid ...then married or married then had dinah...and in the show they were going to have it where dick grayson was her dad, because they were already makin like earth 2 so they figured to have free reign...and to top it off green arrow "oliver queen" is dinah's boyfriend since she is into older guys and well he is older...not to mention dick grayson is a player...c'mon he had starfire he had helena bertinelli and barbara gordon...and yeah a person can be with more than one person and have more than one kid....

SevenSlave

10-03-2004, 10:25 PM

in the show they were going to have it where dick grayson was her dad

Wouldn't Barbara have freaked? :hmm:

As you said, they had something going together in the comics.

SamIAm

10-05-2004, 07:43 PM

What if it wasn't even a hero? What if she was, like, raped by one of the bad guys or something? Even, like, the Joker? Or what if he was just some run of the mill meta she picked up in a bar? Or, what if she woke up hung over one morning and had no idea who she'd been with? Or, what if she was artificially inseminated and Dinah's daddy's #87,429 down at the sperm bank? Oooo...or, what if she's really the child of Canary's identical twin sister, who was killed by the Hawke clan and inspired Canary to bring 'em down? Or, maybe her daddy's an alien from Roswell... Oooo, or maybe he's a married politician.

Okay, okay...I watch too much TV....but the possiblilities are endless, wouldn't you agree?

the panther

10-05-2004, 07:50 PM

:rotfl: Sam, I think you covered the majority of possibilities.

I've always thought that it was some Green Arrow that was Dinah's father. It just seems... logical. :shrug:

Tricha

10-06-2004, 08:14 AM

Well Dinah's father couldn't be worth a penny 'cause he wasn't around when she was a baby girl (she's just talking about her mother in BOP, and her mother is never talking about a man, is she?). Or else, he was killed in some fight.
No I don't think it was Batman.

BabyComicGurl

10-06-2004, 10:59 AM

the whole point was to freak barbara out cuz she was too i dunno had the "good life" minus the whole getting shot by joker other than that she was fine, and she had to have something to freak her out to bring her back down to earth, and once again no its not green arrow because green arrow is dinah's LOVER she would have met him latter on in season two, that would gross babs and helena out but dinah wouldn't care and niether would oliver since she is the best looking babe he's seen in a while....sure it could have been hawke hey it makes sense right but what makes more sense is dick cuz of all that concentration and focus that goes into the tight rope and such...all that mental concentration evolved into dinah's "tele" powers...and batman as one kid...that was enough for him besides if he had anyothers catwoman would personally cut his manhood off...once again my cheery little two cent piece...*wonders whose makin the 1 cent profit*...

srfrgrl

10-06-2004, 12:03 PM

I have no idea except to say that Helena having Dinah as a sister would have been interesting and the idea of her being Hawkes Daughter is quiet amazing as well, I bet a few jaws would have dropped open on that note.

the panther

10-06-2004, 11:51 PM