BirdsofPreyOnline.com - Save "Tarzan" Campaign

LisaM

11-08-2003, 11:56 PM

I received an email today from a group who is trying to save "Tarzan". While you all know how I feel about The WB and their post-BoP new series (good riddance!), there may be some Forum members who enjoy that show and want to help. The email is as follows:

"Hello,
I know that this e-mail isn't directly related to Birds of Prey, but as this show is about to suffer, I thought perhaps you might be willing to help. As you may have heard, Tarzan the series is in danger of being cancelled. So, in an attempt to try and change the WB's minds, we have just begun a 'Save Tarzan Campaign.' We were wondering if you'd be willing to link to it on your site, or promote it any way. We're trying to spread the word to as many people as possible. You can check out the site at http://savetarzan.withtheprettiness.net. Any help you can
give would be most appreciated :)"

jaguarin

11-09-2003, 12:05 AM

Poor guys they are worst than us... they just aired less 7 episodes...

WB is looking to increase their not popular level....

LisaM

11-09-2003, 12:09 AM

It is definitely interesting. With BoP, they continued to produce new eps even after the cancellation was announced. With other shows which are either cancelled or put on hiatus, production usually ceases immediately. In that respect, we were really lucky.

Red Mask

11-09-2003, 12:12 AM

They're getting nothing from me.

GL2814

11-09-2003, 12:47 AM

Are you sure you don't want to post this in the "Calling all Jokers" thread? Maybe if the show would have been more Tarzan like I'd be interested. If the want Tarzan, tell them to go to Disney.

http://www.disney.com.au/disneyvideo/tarzan/legend1.html

AshDinaRachLvr

11-09-2003, 01:40 AM

In one respect, I feel bad for them, but in another, I refuse to help them.

jaguarin

11-09-2003, 08:14 AM

Well, I think that they just asked for help as us are doing... I wish them luck... But the truth Im focus on save BOP; the idea of new Tarzan never liked me, because broke the original Tarzan caracter.

spyke

11-09-2003, 08:49 AM

I'm glad it is leaving,I would much rather have BoP back.

Orcat

11-09-2003, 09:25 AM

Well, I never saw Tarzan, so even if I wanted to help I couldn't. But I do wish them luck.
~V~

Sxygrrl Huntress

11-09-2003, 11:50 AM

Before you continue to refuse help, think about this - how did you feel when people told YOU to give up on BOP? Just because you don't want to fight, that is your choice, but don't knock them for trying. We didn't like getting treated that way from others and we will not be treating anyone the same here.

Jesse321

11-09-2003, 02:48 PM

I have to agree with SGH here, and in addition, let me point out that some of the people currently trying to save Tarzan may have helped the BOP campaign when we first got it started, so be careful before you out and out refuse to help.

SevenSlave

11-09-2003, 02:48 PM

SGH is right ...

We have a mission of our own to complete: saving BOP.

We have a job to do -- let's do it!

We must not let ourselves be distracted from the task at hand.

Jesse321

11-09-2003, 03:06 PM

Liz, lending a helping hand isn't being distracted, especially if you consider that maybe these guys are willing to help us bring back BOP in exchange for our helping them ... one hand washes the other after all.

SevenSlave

11-09-2003, 03:44 PM

^ I know ...

At the same time, let's not forget why we're here.

AshDinaRachLvr

11-09-2003, 03:55 PM

I personally, would be REALLY pissed off if I helped this campaign and it ended up working. So, I'm not gonna help.

Jesse321

11-09-2003, 04:06 PM

So, just because our campaign hasn't born fruit yet, your willing to turn away the possibily more help (which is exactly what we need) just because they might see thier results first.

Nice ... really Nice.

I guess everyone here HAS forgotten what we all collectively felt like when BOP got canned. You should be ashamed of your attitude Ash its completely selfish.

We need help from every source we can get right now to bring BOP back (if thats even possible anymore) so if extending a hand to these guys will garner us some help from them, I (for one) am willing to help.

AshDinaRachLvr

11-09-2003, 04:20 PM

Christ dude, I'm not here looking for a lecture on my attitude. I'm here to help Birds of Prey. Not Tarzan.

hb695

11-09-2003, 05:06 PM

Although I don't watch Tarzan,but I wish the fans good luck too.

SevenSlave

11-09-2003, 05:14 PM

^ Same here. :)

darkphoenix

11-09-2003, 05:16 PM

I'm not a huge fan of the show, but man the WB just SUCKS!!! I'm more fore saving BOP, and I would much rather have it back before Tarzan any day, but I feel bad for the Tarzan fans. *sigh* So many cancellations. I'm definetly not against helping them......we TV fanatics must stick together. :D:D In any case, I wish them luck.

Frostbite

11-09-2003, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by Sxygrrl Huntress
Before you continue to refuse help, think about this - how did you feel when people told YOU to give up on BOP?I was one of the people telling everyone to give up.

SevenSlave

11-09-2003, 05:19 PM

^ We know ... :rolleyes:

Sxygrrl Huntress

11-09-2003, 05:19 PM

lol - and it took banning you to get you to stop :p

TheHuntress143

11-09-2003, 05:20 PM

I'm gonna help save Tarzan, I just sent an email to thewb... :)

Jesse321

11-09-2003, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by AshDinaRachLvr
I'm here to help Birds of Prey. Not Tarzan.

And if by doing one you do the other, wouldn't it be worth it?

We need all the help we can get from any and every source possible, it should be plainly obivous by now, that just us BOPOnliner's aren't having the desired effect, if we did BOP would already be back on the air.

roguephoenix

11-09-2003, 05:37 PM

Man, the WB sucks. I really don't like them.

Even though I didn't want to like Tarzan because it was one of the shows that took the place of BOP, I kind of like the show. And I hate to think that the WB is taking off yet another potentially good show. I think I'm going to help this group out(maybe send an email or two). If only to let the WB know I'm tired of them canceling shows before giving them a fair chance.

PLus, maybe if we help them, they'll help us?

darkphoenix

11-09-2003, 05:50 PM

^^ Good point. Who knows, maybe they will.

jaguarin

11-09-2003, 06:45 PM

Originally posted by Frostbite
I was one of the people telling everyone to give up.

Fros you are one in one thousand!!!! :D

Always make me laugh!!!

SevenSlave

11-09-2003, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by Jesse321
And if by doing one you do the other, wouldn't it be worth it?

We need all the help we can get from any and every source possible, it should be plainly obivous by now, that just us BOPOnliner's aren't having the desired effect, if we did BOP would already be back on the air.

Be patient.

There are many, MANY more people who have sent in comics, letters, etc., than have even registered on the site.

Plus, there's the very real possiblity of something going on behind the scenes (Universal -- Skiffy's parent company -- has obviously talked to DC; they've just optioned a film from them (http://www.birdsofpreyonline.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5440&perpage=15&pagenumber=1) ).

It normally takes at least a year for most successful campaigns to come to fruition.

Jesse321

11-09-2003, 08:13 PM

Liz, I agree, but a little extra help can't hunt. These guys aren't asking us to send vines or trees or recorded Tarzan yells, just send an email or a piece of snail mail, thats not asking much, and if we can get them to send a comic or a printed cover, all the better for our cause too right ?

SevenSlave

11-09-2003, 09:08 PM

How about Carol Burnett tapes? :D ;)

Jesse321

11-09-2003, 09:44 PM

Hey, whatever works.

BeautyEffulgent

11-09-2003, 11:35 PM

Speaking as one of the people who started the Save Tarzan campaign, I first wanted to thank the few of you that have decided to help, or at least support our efforts. And for the rest of you, I understand your position, so no hard feelings here.

Anyway, you mentioned that maybe we'd help out your cause if you did the same for yours. Both my co-webbie and I are Birds of Prey fans and would be both definitely be willing to help out. Actually, BoP is one of the reasons we started the campaign. Here was the WB spitting in our faces yet again by cancelling another show that we loved, despite the fact that many fans wanted to keep it on the air. This time we decided we wouldn't take it lying down.

So, to make it short, yes we'd be willing to scratch your back, if you scratch ours. Heck, even if you don't help out, I'll still send in a comic book cover for the cause. It's the least I can do.

Just remember, we're basically in the same boat here. There's no reason we can't work together against the WB.

LisaM

11-09-2003, 11:43 PM

Welcome Beauty Effulgent...nicely stated.

PoisonKudzu

11-10-2003, 12:17 AM

Hey -

I used to post here under SlinkySelina but I lost the password, the email it sent the password too (Im quite forgetful with them) so I created this one.

I'm the other owner with "BeautyEffulgent." I'm still mad about BoP, in fact it's what made me fight for Tazan. I grew up with the knowledge anything good is worth fighting for. I miss BoP. I hadn't planned to watch Tarzan. Then I saw it and went "oh, this show is laughable." Around the 3rd episode, I noticed it got better. Just like BoP, it struggled in the writing the first couple simply because it was having to that awful introduction phase. I'm a harsh critic and I like it. I got my mom to watch it tonight. I wish I could do the same with BoP.

I really hope BoP comes back. I truly do. I enjoyed the show very much. I liked the cliche-y clocktower scene when they would all go out and talk. It was great because it kept bonding them together. I like shows that aren't reality or necessarily the feelgood family series. I like the ones that are a little off.

I just wanted to explain that *I* get why you're upset. I'm still bitter at the WB from BoP so imagine the irateness I have for them now. I didn't want you all to think I was someone just plugging, I know how it feels. Lessons learnt and all that. So now I fight even more. And I still plan to send comics when I actually gain the cash to do that. My mom's paying for the stamps and stuff for the Tarzan one. I would love to have something of BoP back. Even if was a mini-movie on TV. Or heck, tapes to watch.

I'll stop babbling now. I know I am. Anyway, I just wanted to express my thoughts.

-- Jo

SevenSlave

11-10-2003, 03:34 AM

Originally posted by PoisonKudzu

I really hope BoP comes back. I truly do. I enjoyed the show very much. I liked the cliche-y clocktower scene when they would all go out and talk. It was great because it kept bonding them together.

Xena had those moments too.

It didn't bother me. :)

Orcat

11-10-2003, 06:10 AM

Well said, PoisonKudzu and BeautyEffulgent. You're right, we need to work together. Expect my e-mail.
~V~

Jesse321

11-10-2003, 07:04 AM

I'[ve already sent several, please keep us informed if you guys plan anything beyond a letter writing campaign, I for one will do what I can, and I'm sure that several fellow BOPper's will also help out.

As I've stated with X-Men Evolution, its better to start something now since its easier to save a show thats still airing.

Mor Cartel

11-10-2003, 02:39 PM

Although I haven't seen the show, or intend to see it (no offense, Tarzan lovers, I'm just not into it) I will contribute, in hopes to gain fellow supporters. I mean, it at least deserves a full season.

roguephoenix

11-10-2003, 04:12 PM

Well stated PoisonKudzu and BeautyEffulgent.

I'm personally tired of the WB axing shows before giving them a fair chance. Plus, I kind of like Tarzan. It deserves a shot.

I've already sent some emails. Count me in on your campaign.

Impulse

11-10-2003, 06:18 PM

come on people! Will it hurt to sign your name??? I mean, if Birds of Prey ever came back, it's not like Tarzan will ever stop it! Please? I mean, remember how we felt when we found out that BoP was going to be cancelled? Then you know how these other "die-hard" fans of Tarzan will feel if it gets cancelled. Stick up for the little people!

jaguarin

11-10-2003, 06:41 PM

I signed, always is good help others... And just take a few seconds

BopRockMyWorld

11-10-2003, 07:58 PM

ok i will help out by sending emails to wb

PoisonKudzu

11-10-2003, 08:00 PM

Thanks everyone that's helping :cheer: I was going to post earlier in the day but I had to take my mom to the hospital to see her sister. Her sister is pretty bad off so I had to wait til I could sit and write back in a less hurried method.

SevenSlave, I loved those moments in Xena myself. I miss that show too.

The_Vipress Thank you for the effort. :) I'll help BoP in return.

Jesse321, Thank you. I agree about it's better to start when it's on air. That said, I think it would be wonderful for BoP to come back with a vengence. *cough*andstickittotheWB*cough.

Black Rose, Thank you. It says a lot of someone's character when they're willing to give-and-get.

roguephoenix, The WB reminds me of a spoilt child who isn't getting their way (in the ratings of shows) so they blame the show instead of the lack of faith they put behind the shows. Sometimes other people have to create the faith and make sure the shows at lesat get a fair chance.

Impluse, I just like you so much. :) You're very motivational. :bow:

jaguarin, *nods* I agree it is always good. Sometimes its the small things that end up mattering the most.

BopRockMyWorld, Thank you very much. :)

Impulse

11-10-2003, 08:20 PM

Oh, I like you too. :grin: I hope your mom's sister is OK.

PoisonKudzu

11-10-2003, 08:31 PM

*Grins* Glad my crazy attitude is likable.

I don't think she will be. I see her and feel her getting her weaker. She's 81 and when they operated on her she got a serratia infection, which I have no idea what it is but I'm betting something not good. I don't know if anyone is familiar with Atlanta but she's at St. Joseph's again. The second time in about 3 weeks. She went a nursing home and they found out she was sick so she went back to SJH. Ironically, she got the infection from there when she was operated on.

SevenSlave

11-10-2003, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by PoisonKudzu
The WB reminds me of a spoilt child who isn't getting their way (in the ratings of shows) so they blame the show instead of the lack of faith they put behind the shows.

I think that The WB's problem is that they tend to micromanage their shows.

Have you ever noticed how just about ALL of their shows -- with the exception of "Angel", which is produced by 20th Century Fox -- have pop/alt-rock soundtracks? Frankly, I think more than a few of them could do without them.

Just about everyone on a WB network show HAS to hook up -- whether it makes sense or not. It's become SUCH a cliche. :(

PoisonKudzu

11-10-2003, 08:51 PM

I have actually noticed that with the music. And it gets so old very quickly. I like the channel for the most part but the music is so recycled on the shows. I won't go into how often I've heard a Sarah Mclachan - who I love - but they just stick in there when a situation comes up and they need something quick. Whatever happened to good ol' instrumental music. I watch Days of Our Lives and I love the instrumentals when you hear a certain character come into the scene.

And the hook-ups get ridiculous as well. Take for instance Joey Potter. She was with Dawson, Jack - who was suddenly gay, then Pacey, Professor dude (I think), Dawson, Charlie, Eddie, then Pacey. I think that's all. But dang. That just makes her look.. well not in a good light, I'll leave it at that. And now on One Tree Hill (which I kinda enjoy saddly. must be a nod to my TRL days)... The good girl likes the semi bad boy, discontent girl likes the underdog.. shared father can't stand oldest son's mother but isn't happy that brother chose duty over wants.. etc etc.

That's why I love shows that turn the "good feelings" shows on their ears but still makes we wanna watch every week. *looks up* Wow, that's pretty long. Mostly Joey stuff though.

Actually this inconsiderate act of the WB - to quote Erica: spitting our faces - is making me want to change my major ot marketing research. I may not be doing anything on the huge corporate level but I'd like to see the little guy prevail... the people around me.. the businesses.

*shushs until next post before your eyes glaze over. ;)*

GL2814

11-11-2003, 03:07 AM

Originally posted by Sxygrrl Huntress
Before you continue to refuse help, think about this - how did you feel when people told YOU to give up on BOP? Just because you don't want to fight, that is your choice, but don't knock them for trying. We didn't like getting treated that way from others and we will not be treating anyone the same here. I still think Disney should have stepped in and stopped the show. I know Time Warner still has rights to the character but, so does Disney and this should have become the same kind of fight that Clayton Moore had 24 years ago with the Lone Rnager people. Make them do it right rather than do it for their own means.

Sxygrrl Huntress

11-11-2003, 03:43 AM

What does your comment have to do with my quote? I'm confused.

GL2814

11-11-2003, 04:04 AM

It's confusing yeah. What I meant was, two comanies have the rights to the name, and both had shows out at the same time. Now one was planning on doing another project based on the name at the same time the TV show was released. Now that would usually cause sveral leagal battles simallar to the ones that kept the Spider-man movie from being made for twenty years. Now somehow everyone looked the other way and let the show go on even though they could have pulled the plug ahead of time. Now I know it's still a confusing explaination but, I'm trying my best to make sence. Now somewhere along the line another Tazan show will most likely pop up (again) and it might last a while. And reguardless of a save the show campain or some negotiations or what ever people will do, there will allways be a form of Tarzan somwhere. Therefore, this save Tarzan campain is really not nessisary. I hope you could make sence of that, because I'm having trouble with it myself and it came from me.

Sxygrrl Huntress

11-11-2003, 04:32 AM

My point had nothing to do with that. I was just stopping people from insulting those that want to fight for Tarzan. We didn't like when people were insulting us, therefore, we are not going to insult them.

SevenSlave

11-11-2003, 05:15 AM

Originally posted by PoisonKudzu
I have actually noticed that with the music. And it gets so old very quickly. I like the channel for the most part but the music is so recycled on the shows. I won't go into how often I've heard a Sarah Mclachan - who I love - but they just stick in there when a situation comes up and they need something quick.

I've noticed that Dido has been getting around too.

srfrgrl

11-11-2003, 07:11 AM

I agree with SGH, these people are only trying to get their show back, they are in the same boat we are all in, so don't diss them just because they like Tarzan, not the best choice for a show but they like it. So I say help them out! I will be happy to annoy the WB some more about a cancelled show.

PoisonKudzu

11-11-2003, 10:18 AM

SevenSlave, Now that mention it and I can think about it, I have too. I somehow missed the connection. Probably cause I've decided the music selection people have used the songs so much I don't even register them anymore.

Originally posted by gl2813
Therefore, this save Tarzan campain is really not nessisary. I hope you could make sence of that, because I'm having trouble with it myself and it came from me.
Why must it be to take one campaign higher another must fail? Why not keep them on equal ground because thewanted end result is the same: To keep the show around and have our voices make a difference?

Sxygrrl Huntress, thank you sticking up for us when we weren't around. :)

srfrgrl, thank you for helping out. :)