Alfred

[TheDarkKnight]

I know this topic doesn't seem all that exciting but am I the only one, that think that Alfred is just put in the Clocktower whenever the writers feel the need to put him there. Yes, I know Alfred plays a crucial part in the Bat mythos but so far all he's really doing is consultant to Bab's and Helena's needs. He's not adding much to the plot of the story but he's being Alfred and for that I'm thankful.

Once more, we need a more active Alfred since he is afterall in the opening credits but only the show with less then five lines.

[Frostbite]

Just like Pete from the first season of Smallville. Of course, no one's here is screaming, "we want more Alfred!".

[DizzyOracle]

Hey, I WANT MORE ALFRED!!! :p

[Gothic Knight]

For now Alfred is the only connection that Helena has with the Wayne Family

[William]

He's kinda dull, need more to do

[Gothic Knight]

He's a butler the only thing he knows to do is taking care of superheros. that and serve a good cup of tea.

[Hecate]

I don't really see that much difference in his role here than with Batman--grandfatherly guy, sounding board. But I wouldn't mind him playing a more prominent part. It could make for a very interesting episode.

[Seven Of Nine]

They should at least have him in the background cleaning or reading the newspaper. Unless we are to believe that everytime we see them is during Alfred's off hours.

[Gothic Knight]

When you're not seeing Alfred at the Clocktower is because he is at Wayne Manor.

[Frostbite]

And what exactly is he doing in Wayne Manor? Sleeping in the Master Bedroom, frolicking through the waves, bat-grappling through the Batcave....

[Gothic Knight]

How did you know.....lol

[Hecate]

Alfred-Exposed!

[DrShimmel]

Get him kiddnapped! How many times do I have to say this before someone says its a good idea? Alfred always gets kidnapped!

[DizzyOracle]

The writers just have so many bases to cover, which makes it hard to fully utilize all of the characters. It's a shame, though.

[Lance]

'Tis, indeed, a shame. His (too short) conversation with Barbara in 'Primal Scream' was wonderful! I don't know about anyone else, but I thought it remarkable that two characters who had barely spoken in earlier episodes were given such depth and emotion, as if they really had known and loved each other for all those years. The wonderful Dina Meyer and Ian Abercrombie deserve kudos for that scene.

[TheOracle]

Originally posted by Gothic Knight
He's a butler the only thing he knows to do is taking care of superheros. that and serve a good cup of tea.

Alfred has, on more than one occasion, done much MUCH more than just "take care of superheroes." He's a man of many talents. - My problem is... I can't think of any exmaples right now *blush* But... he's never just been there to make a good cup of tea!

[Gothic Knight]

There was a rumor that Alfred was a British agent in his youth before he began working for Thomas Wayne.

[Frostbite]

Alfred's father Jarvis was a medic in World War 2, in which Thomas Wayne was a soldier.

[TheDarkKnight]

Alfred has quite the past, he served as medic to Wayne, aided the Wayne family, he was an actor before moving in and working for the Waynes and there is probably more depending on the history of the character, that has yet to be written.

[themaninblack]

Alfred is not sleeping in the Master Suite at Wayne Manor, or frolicing in the Batcave. He has his duties, and does them well (considering his age). There is a staff at the Manor - so that allows him to look in at the Clocktower and keep an eye on the "Birds" - He does have a history as a spy for British Intelligence, unfortunately the limitations of a one hour drama can only cover so much of all the regular characters. IF the show had continued I have it on good authority that there would have been more of Alfred than a cuppa and a dust cloth.

[Frostbite]

Taken from www.fanzing.com

Born and raised in England, Alfred Pennyworth was born into a family that had a tradition of serving as butlers to the wealthy Gotham lineage of the Waynes. But Alfred chose instead not to become a butler. He spent some time experimenting in different fields of interest, auto-mechanics, medicine, cooking, until he finally decided his passion rested in acting. Alfred became an accomplished stage actor, and was known as a master of make-up and mimicry.
When he was in his early thirties, Alfred fell in love with an actress named Joanna Clark. The two eventually became engaged. But on the wedding day, Alfred was assaulted by a massive shock. Just as the couple was one the alter to exchange their vows, a friend named Johnny Forsythe stormed into the chapel to announce that he'd been having an affair with Joanna for several months. Heartbroken and enraged, Alfred knocked down Johnny with one punch and then stormed out of the ceremony.

That night, after spending several hours drunk, Alfred decided to retreat to his father's life and go to America. He would put this life behind him and go on to start a new one with the Waynes.

Alfred arrive at Wayne Manor a few days later, ready to take the position his father had left open years ago. Upon his arrival, he immediately impressed six-year-old Bruce Wayne, who was taken by the Alfred's "funny way of talking."

Alfred found a great joy working at Wayne Manor. He found Martha and Thomas Wayne to be very admirable people and he began to grow a fatherly sort of love with young Bruce. Bruce was ostracized at school for being the "rich kid" and so spent most of him time at the Manor rather than out playing with any friends. Thus, he and Alfred spent much time together, though Alfred would sometimes refer to the rambunctious lad as a "foolish young terror."

Two years after his arrival, Alfred was shocked when police came to the Manor to tell him that Martha and Thomas had been murdered by a mugger. Young Bruce had been left alive, though horribly traumatized from having to witness his parents being killed in front of him.

Along with the police had come Dr. Leslie Thompkins, a physician who'd found Bruce alongside his parents' bodies. Leslie expressed to Alfred a wish to make sure the boy was taken care of. She stayed at the Manor for a few days, eventually explaining to Bruce that the state wanted to take him away and that there would be several families who would wish to adopt him because of the fortune he would inherit. Young Bruce found this unacceptable. He wanted to continue living in his family home, with his best friend Alfred watching over him. Bruce learned all he could from Leslie and Alfred about the specifics of the state's case to take Bruce in and, more importantly, how it was possible to clog up this process. Using bribes and false paperwork, Alfred and Bruce were able to clog up the state with so much paperwork that Bruce was simply lost in the system. He was thus allowed to stay at Wayne Manor, with Alfred and Leslie acting as his surrogate guardians.

Bruce soon decided that he would dedicate his life to ensuring that no one else would suffer as he did. He would become a master crime-fighter. Whether he would work within or outside the law, he didn't know yet. But one thing was certain. He needed to become a master at everything that could possibly aid him. Some of the skills he deemed necessary were the arts of disguise and deception. Thus, Alfred did his best to train him in his former theatrical field. Alfred taught him mimicry, ventriloquism, stage presence, impov acting. Alfred also helped Bruce hone his talents at make-up and disguise.

Years later, Bruce would decide that he would work as a vigilante and that he would inspire fear by assuming the guise of a giant bat-like creature. Working together, he and Alfred designed and created an outfit which was both utilitarian and visibly striking. Bruce donned this outfit and soon the newspapers were speaking of a mysterious "Batman" who haunted Gotham City's streets.

Alfred continued in his capacity of the Batman's aide and confidant for the next several years. This extended to Batman's later partners Dick Grayson, Jason Todd and Tim Drake, all of whom adopted the identity of "Robin." After leaving Wayne's company, Grayson adopted the new identity of "Nightwing". As leader of the Teen Titans, his teammates were aware of his true identity and on one or two occasions Dick's relationship with Alfred would involve the butler giving aid to the Titans themselves.

Although Alfred would always be concerned about Bruce's safety, he understood that the man was driven in this career of his and that there was no way of talking him out of it.

Years later, the villain known as Bane broke the Batman's back. Although Bruce's life was saved by the efforts of Alfred, Tim Drake and the vigilante Azrael, he was left nearly a paraplegic. No longer of any use, the mantle of the bat was passed on to Azrael.

Bruce had little time to adjust to his new weakened condition when his friends Jack Drake and Shondra Kinsolving were kidnapped by foreign terrorists. Under the alternate identities of Sir Hemmingford Gray and his butler Charles, Bruce and Alfred journeyed to Santa Prisca to save their friends. But Alfred grew more and more concerned that Bruce was pushing himself to the point that he would permanently damage his body. At one point, Bruce wound up in the hospital. Despite the doctor's orders, he was fully ready to get out of bed and continue his efforts. At this point, Alfred said he'd had the last straw. He could no longer sit by and simply watch as his best friend and surrogate son went out to get himself killed. With a heavy heart, Alfred quit.

Leaving Gotham City, Alfred first went to Antartica. When asked why, he simply responded "I like penguins." A few weeks later, he returned to London. On a whim, he decided to look up his old love, known now as Joanna Forsythe. Not wishing to hold a grudge, Alfred simply wished to rekindle an old friendship. But his ambitions grew when he discovered that a year after they'd married, Johnny had died in a car accident and left Joanna a widow. Joanna expressed a wish to rekindle a relationship with Alfred but was also concerned about the safety of her son Derek. Derek owed money to a criminal organization and she knew Alfred could pay off the debts. To add to the urgency, Joanna then revealed that Derek was actually Alfred's son, not Derek's.

With this new knowledge, Alfred set about to help young Derek, the son he'd never known. But things were not to be solved so easily. Derek had gotten involved with an organization that was planning on overthrowing the British government and Alfred was getting too close to their operation. Fortunately, he would have help.

Soon after Alfred had retired, Bruce had regained the use of his back and a couple weeks later had reclaimed the mantle of the bat. Another couple of weeks after this, Nightwing went on a quest to search out Alfred. He eventually tracked him down to London and found him in the middle of this situation with Derek. Wishing to help his old friend, Nightwing helped Alfred take down the criminal organization. But the victory was hollow, as Derek ended up killed in the process. Alfred grieved with Joanna over the loss of their son, but was then in for another shock. Joanna had lied. Derek had been Johnny's son all along. She'd misled Alfred merely to ensure that he would help. Distraught, Alfred left Joanna once again.

Upon meeting up with Nightwing later, Alfred decided that he was no longer capable of living with "ordinary people" who were shallow in their understandings of each other and themselves. He was more at home with people such as Bruce, people who knew exactly who they were and were in complete control of themselves and their lives. Deciding that perhaps he still had something to offer to Gotham's resident super-hero, Alfred returned to Wayne Manor. Bruce couldn't have been happier.

A couple years later, a massive quake hit Gotham. Eventually, Congress decided that the city would be abandoned and deemed a "No Man's Land." Although Bruce decided to leave for a short while, Alfred stayed in No Man's Land, making efforts to collect whatever information Batman would need upon his return. He mapped out the territories that were being made and kept track of who was allied with whom. When Batman returned three months later, Alfred resumed his role as squire to the Dark Knight.

Aside from helping Batman, Alfred also spends his time helping whomever he can in No Man's Land and offering assistance to Leslie Thompkins, who's restarted her clinic to help those who didn't or couldn't leave their city.

Alfred is an excellent mechanic, having maintained the Batman's vehicles for years. He is a four-star chef. Alfred is skilled in first aid and has general knowledge in the field of medicine. In recent years, he has familiarized himself as a better-than-average computer hacker. And after ten years of being the Batman's aide, Alfred has proved to be a skilled detective, with general knowledge in forensics, pathology and criminal psychology.
Alfred is moderately skilled in the use of firearms and is a better than average hand-to-hand combatant. He has basic knowledge in a few martial arts.

Alfred is an accomplished actor, skilled in improv, make-up, mimicry, stage presence, and ventriloquism. He has even mastered the ability of mimicking Bruce Wayne's voice with pin-point accuracy. Thus, he's often been able to cement the illusion that Bruce Wayne and the Batman are two separate entities.

[themaninblack]

Thank you for that incredible back story on Alfred. I feel, if the powers to be at BOP had even a smidge of that info, it would have spiced up quite a few of Alfred's scenes. Once again, kudos.

[Rondevu]

WOW!

I thought I was a fan. I stopped reading DC halfway into Azrael. Got too corny for me. Good info, and thank you.

[Neil]

I'm with themaninblack on this one, had the writers known more about Alfred he would of played a bigger part and no matter what anyone says Alfred was deffinately the highlight of "Three Birds and a Baby" - only Alfred could be look upon that situation in the way that he did in that episode

[jaguarin]

The caracters are magic, the cast is magic, BOP IS MAGIC!!!
And we are part of this great magic...

[Svanda]

Well at least we got to see Alfred with a shotgun. He's been the only character with a real weapon.

[Frostbite]

Helena had a flamethrower in Slick. And I can think of lots of episodes when the henchmen characters had guns.

[MR_Q]

lol...Who can argue with the maninblack now? You godda love these surprise turn of events....

I loved Alfred with the shotgun and the high-five with helena...good times, good times. :)

[msugirl85]

and remember huntress is the weapon. :D sorry couldn't resist.

[themaninblack]

Belch

[msugirl85]

ha ha ha.


that's me/ the queen of bop trivia AND corny jokes.

[Neil]

lol @ themaninblack

[Frostbite]

Would Ian Abercrombie *really* post "Belch"?

[msugirl85]

*shrugs shoulders* maybe...maybe not. maybe you should ask for some i.d.

[Neil]

now the show's over and you can't put us down for liking it are you just going to try and convince us that this isn't Ian

[msugirl85]

that's frostbite. and you never know. could be some phsyco stalker.

[LisaM]

Frostbite, get a grip! It's really Ian.

[Terry]

how do we know for sure though

[Neil]

Terry - ask Lisa she has had more contact with him that I have but I believe it's him.

[MR_Q]

Belch? What the hell was that about? Do we give you gas or something?

[Frostbite]

I just couldn't picture Ian Abercrombie sitting at a computer and typing in "Belch". I just can't.

[Jesse321]

Thats because you can't get past picturing Ian as Alfred. Alfred is a part he played not who he is, its called acting and if you can't get past it then he is obviously good at it.

Either that or you just have VERY little imagination, take you pick.

[Frostbite]

It's just I can't picture anyone over 45 typing "Belch". And Ian is way over 45 (no offense, Ian).

[themaninblack]

Frostbite et al - I apologize for posting 'Belch' - It was done in frustration with my computor, I had trouble posting my replies to the Q's. I am not the most adept human being with this techno stuff. I have bruised this machine quite a bit.... So, it is unlike me to be that infantile, but I think we are all entitled to a 'slip up' now and then. Also, I am over 45, which is great. You only have to look at the shows to see that I am WAYYY over 45. Fun too.

[Jesse321]

Bravo Ian.

[huntress33]

i cant believe someone from birds of prey actually came here and posted. That is so kewl.And Alfred is awesome!Me and my friend 'during devils eyes' were like ok we dont care wat happens as long as Alfred is ok.He was pretty kewl with that shotgun.

[Sxygrrl Huntress]

Ian, no need to apologize... we ALL bruise our computers! I finally had to buy a new one - it's called Huntress... :D

It's really too bad they didn't see the potential in this amazing show and give it a chance. The scenes of you in Lady Shiva and Devil's eyes were great and although I don't know alot about Alfred's backstory, there was always a comfort with Alfred being around watching Batman, and now my fave, the birds. You performed the part extremely well... enjoyed your performance more than the actors from the Batman movies :D

:) Angie

[crazy_pete]

Wow, that was a pretty cool biography on Alfred, thanks alot Frostbite. Ian Ambercrombie, you are really cool. Please tell us anything and everything you get from WB or any other channels about offers for a syndicated BOP or spin off or movie or anything. We really appreciate what you did for the show, even though little of it was shown.

[super85]

Ian

First of all, you did a great job as Alfred. How familiar are you with the Batman myth? and what did you do to learn the character? did you just read the scripts and knew how to act or did you read comics or watched the movies?.

[Candle]

The place would fall apart without Alfred. & everybody needs a confidant, even superheroes.

[AmericanEagle83]

Ian posted on this site? Where? I don't see it.

[Neil]

AmericanEagle83 there is a post in the New Gotham Gazette forum entitled "Reavealing themaninvblack" where it turns out that the poster themaninblack is infact Ian A.

[AmericanEagle83]

WOW! SWEET! THAT'S BEEN HIM ALL ALONG?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Joker85]

Ian it is refreshing to see an actor take an interest in the net and the fans. I'm glad you decided to let us know who you are and it's definitely an honor to have you here. I hope you keep on posting here, and can share insight into your character and the other actors.

[Neil]

Yep, unless you listen to Frostbite who is convinced it isn't him

[Frostbite]

Originally posted by Neil
Yep, unless you listen to Frostbite who is convinced it isn't him
Now what would ever give you that idea? :angel:

[msugirl85]

i know what et al means!!!!!! my crazy english teacher, you know the one that got attakced bt the cat, he made us use it on our bib cards when we had a book with more the one editor.

[themaninblack]

I just discovered this thread as I have been busy w/revealing themaninblack. I do not want to spread myself too thin and be overexposed, but feel I should answer some of your Q's.

SkygirlHunter - Hey Angie, I hope you are not too mad with LM. We kept my identity under wraps, as you know, for good reasons. That being said, I look forward to being in touch.

LADY SHIVA - Was my favorite. I had some good stuff to get my teeth into, and my scenes with Babs, I feel, really crackled. A big hand must go to our Director John Kretchmer (a wonderful presence)

Crazy_pete - I have a long name. Adding an "m" makes it longer.
It is ABERCROMBIE - (like the store)
I also would have liked more time on camera, but I realized early on, that the focus had to be on the young girls. It was quite frustrating to wander around with another cup of tea. Alfred had so much back history. I felt they did not even scratch the surface.

Super85 - My only contact with BATMAN was when I was young and I had a few comic books. (They were hard to get in London after the war), I did see the films, and I did know Michael Gough who played Alfred. When I got the part, the character was all on the page. Having been an actor for 50 years, I was given the creative control which I feel pleased all the folks at WB.

[Birdofpreyrocks]

what is aashley scott like in person and what is going to be done a bout the show is it the end or what?

[huntress' prey]

Like i said on the "themaninblack" thread. Happy to "know" you, and thank you sir.

You now have a good fan in Venezuela.

God bless you all!

[Sxygrrl Huntress]

Originally posted by themaninblack
- Hey Angie, I hope you are not too mad with LM. We kept my identity under wraps, as you know, for good reasons. That being said, I look forward to being in touch.

I understand about the secret... No, I'm not too mad at Lisa :D But I still reserve the right to pick on her for not telling me who themaninblack was. At least I can now stop calling you Bob :D haha I look forward to reading more posts from you and feel free to share any info on Ashley.... you know I'm a big fan...

I missed her when she worked in Vancouver on Dark Angel... I had a tour of the set but it was only the stunt crew on duty. Sigh... wish I could have been on the Birds Of Prey set...

Thanks again for joining us on the forum... I hope you enjoy yourself tremendously. Just don't get addicted like the rest of us! :D We have a thread called "You know you're a BOP addict when..." so if you find yourself addicted to the forum, you're in good company! HAHA!

...........Angie :)

[DrayvensCrow]

Ian,

There is nothing that I can say that hasn't already been said, and to do so isn't me. So all I will say is thank you.

[super85]

themaninblack/Ian/Alfred ;)

I thank you for answering my question and its nice that an actor visits forums and cares what the fans think and thought. And again you were very good as Alfred, only thing that bothered me was that you were underused,but like you said the show concentrated on the girls,and mostly Huntress. the scenes with Barbara in Lady Shiva was pure Alfred Pennyworth and one of my favorite moments of the show. You have probably heard this already by someone but if there is any word of a DVD release of BOP please tell us.

[jaguarin]

Mr. Ian:
THE LITTLE JAGUAR IT'S BACK!!!!!!!
(again Indiana Jones Music)
And now has MORE of questions!!! (If you have time to answer it)

A) How do you discover this Web site? and...
B) Why do you deside to be in contact with us?
C) Who teach you to use computers? I see my daddy (has 65) and he tries to use it and it's very hard for him, he said that it's a crazy machine.

The next summer you must visit Mexico, the Tourist guide it's free (MEEE!!!!!).

[msugirl85]

don't worry about sgh. i told you she was bossy. :D :D :D :p :p


*runs out of the thread narrowly missing sgh swing at me*


ha ha ha. i gotta go play some trivia.


*peeps head back in*

wait a min wait a min. your name is angie!!!! you don't remind me of an angie.

[themaninblack]

birdofpreyrocks - Ashley has to be one of the loveliest girls I have ever met. Not only is she stunning to look at, but there is a great heart good soul, She also is a very hard worker, and a lot of those stunts were her own work. Especiallyin the last fight scene, (I was there)
Also sad to say, I do think it is the end of the show. But you do have the tapes to savor the 'good times'
jaguarin - My nephew in London turned me on to the website, he was aware of this huge fan base for BOP (I had no idea you all were here)
I decided to be in touch because of all the bad rumors and misinformation that was floating about. Although I could'nt say too much, I tried to get some of the facts straight.
I taught myself how to work/play with this computor. You tell your Dad that I am older than he, and if I can do it, anyone can. Best of Luck.

[jaguarin]

Mr. Ian:
Really you are LOVELYYY!!!!!!!
Youa are an incredible person, thanks.

Again: You have a free tourist guide here!!!

[huntress33]

IAN-
what has been your favorite show/movie to work on?
Thanks so much for answering all our questions.

[msugirl85]

i still can't think of my question.

[Joker85]

Ian, it has been so interesting to here your remarks toward the show, the internet, and the fans. I'm so glad you decided to join the boards! I do have one question though, not sure if it's been asked yet or not, but was there a lot of cutting up and joking around on the set. Ya'll all seem like such fun people there would have to be a lot of "bloopers".

[Birdofpreyrocks]

u had alot of parts in the last eps, How long did it take all of you boppers to do that? What has everyone said about the show canelation i now you guys must be sad? I know we are

[Birdofpreyrocks]

Also, there has been word that all of you hang around the set to remember memories or something is that true?

[tchung]

just want to say that is great show and thanks for let us know you guys care Ian, can you tell the girls to show up time to time to tell us what they are doing? I would love to heard form them as well, I can't wait to see the lase two eps, sorry they don't show it at my country(Taiwan) I have to download it form Imesh, just love all you guys for bring such wounderful show to us.

[TheDarkKnight]

I can't believe it! I know I haven't been to this board in a long while but the "real" Alfredf from BIRDS replied to my message. (Sorry, now back to the point at hand.)

[Ultrawolf]

wowsers its really cool when famous people visit message boards ^_^

[themaninblack]

huntress33 - I have done about 75 films and over 200 TV shows, plus a lot and years of Theatre. My favorites have been: (Movies) -Young Frankenstein, Firewalker, Catacombs, Puppetmaster 111, Army of Darkness, Mousehunt. (TV) - Babylon 5, The Flash, Newsradio, Blossom, Murphy Brown, GvsE, LA Law, Star Trek Voyager, Buffy, Seinfeld (Mr. Pitt) and of course BOP.
Joker85 & Kea - Joking around on the set was kept to a minimum, due to the hard working conditions, we did laugh and giggle but mostly slight stuff to relieve the tension. Physically it was hard especially for Ashley, for me standing around (even with my own chair) was aching. We spent most of our downtime between scenes in out identical trailers.

[themaninblack]

birdofpreyrocks - We did not discuss the cancellation, we just got on with our job. Also we do not hang about talking about the show. You must remember, all 6 of the stars were just actors working together, we were not friends before we started, and although for the most part we had a good working relationship, once work was done we retreated back to our own lives and families. I am sure down the road at some point we may work together again. Then we can look back on BOP as a fun connection.

[Ultrawolf]

ahh so you have no idea if WB will renew BOP? :( i hope they do although it seems like the chances are very slim....

[MR_Q]

Army of Darkness? Are you refering to the same Army of Darkness with Bruce Campbell? I love that movie but its been a long time since Ive seen it. What role did you play?

Young Frankenstien? As in Mel Brookes Young Frankenstien? I have that, Im going to watch it right now!

[themaninblack]

Mr_Q - I believe my part in "Young Frankenstein" was cut to bits. There may be a shot or two. I played the lst or 2nd Vilager (it was 29 years ago). In ARMY OF DARKNESS I played Wiseman John who sends Bruce Campbell to seek out the "BOOK" - I utter the words 'clacto , verata, nicto" (sic) - Movies buffs will know where that comes from.

[Dark Empress]

bruce thomas (bop's batman) was in army of darkness, too

[Kea]

So that's how you found this board! Just a warning it tends to become little addicting! ;)

It also sounds like you had a wonderful time on set! And Ashley sounds wonderful!

You know it took me forever to remember what part you played in Buffy. But I finally remembered!
Thanks again for joining our board. I always look forward to reading your posts. - Kerstin

(And thanks Sxygrrl Huntress for pointing out this thread! Can you believe I actually missed one!) ;)

On a side note: Sxygrrl Huntress you were on the Dark Angel set! Very cool. Yeah I wish I could have seen the Bop one as well! (I was outside the studio where they filmed Cleo 2525 but that's about it!)

[Birdofpreyrocks]

koo

[super85]

Bruce Thomas didnt play Batman in the pilot episode, it was Alex Daniels, Val Kilmer's and George Clooneys stuntdouble who played him, the guy who played Joker (R oger Stoneburner) told me so. It might have been Bruce Thomas who played him in that opening scene with Catwoman.

[clarkkent]

Why are you talking as if there's going to be a chance to change Alfred's screen time and personality? BOP is unfortunately kaputz!

[themaninblack]

Skyirl Huntress - Angie, is there an arm patch for this 'addiction'. I had a life before logging on here. What is an aging butler to do ?. Ho Hum

[Sxygrrl Huntress]

Sorry to tell you this Ian but once you are on the forum, life as you know it changes. What goes through your mind is, "I'll just read one more post and *then* go to bed".... an hour later...... "Just one more and I'm going"..... more time passes.... "Really, this is my last post!"...... sun starts to rise and birds are chirping.... "Okay, for real, this is my LAST post," you say as your eyes are bloodshot from lack of sleep and too much coffee.

Please! If you do come across a patch for this addiction in LA, let *me* know because none of us can seem to find one in our cities :D

........................ Angie :)

[Kea]

LOL it really is an addiction isn't it! :)

Sxygrrl Huntress how about "I'll read one more post and then find the information for a presentation I really need to do because its due next week." Or that might be just me!

*Sigh* first I'm addicted to Bop now the message board! I'm noticing a theme here! ;)