View Full Version : BoP is about defying all odds and fighting to the End
Apollo
11-30-2002, 05:41 PM
The overall theme of BoP is not giving up and continuing to fight.
Barbara could never walk again and fight crime like she use to as Batgirl. But she found a way to defy the odds and to continue to fight. Through persistence, hope, intelligence, and effort, Babs changed her fate and the fate of others through her work.
Helena didn't just accept her mother's death, she wanted vengeance. She became Huntress and fights to make the world better.
This is an analogy for us. Just because the show is cancelled doesn't mean we can't do anything. All the Birds of Prey changed their fate and never gave up. We can do the same for the show's existence.
DizzyOracle
11-30-2002, 05:46 PM
Hear hear!
Gothic Knight
11-30-2002, 05:49 PM
I couldn't have said it better myself.
Frostbite
11-30-2002, 05:53 PM
Yes, but in real life, we have no way of solving this problem. It's impossible. Give up!
Gothic Knight
11-30-2002, 06:01 PM
There is always a way.
Neptune's Rose
11-30-2002, 06:03 PM
I'm Not Giving up. :) does that annoy you?
Gothic Knight
11-30-2002, 06:16 PM
Good for you Neptunekix. Don't give up you're not alone.
tvfanatic
11-30-2002, 07:49 PM
I really don't like the word 'impossible'. Let me lay out a few examples of things that were considered 'impossible' until someone fought for them and they became more than possible they became reality: putting a man on the moon, ending slavery, getting equal rights, organ transplants, and the list gones on and on...nothing and I mean nothing is impossible. Everything is possible no matter how bad the odds or how tough he road ahead...nothing is impossible.
TheWraith
11-30-2002, 07:56 PM
In this case, it is impossible because WB executives want the show to stay cancelled! It's no longer a matter of hope, opinion or anything like that. We are now dealing with rock solid facts, and they are irrevocable. WB want BoP to be cancelled and to stay cancelled. And that's that!
Nightwing Lite
11-30-2002, 08:21 PM
Well, no reason to rain on anyone's parade. It would be great if the show stayed on. Pray for the best, but prepare for the worst. Some people just love negativity, but I'm not one of them. And some people have been negative from the start. For example, on SHATM--TheWrath's site--he stated from the start that the show was awful and he hoped it would be canceled. So just ignore negativity, and I think we all know negativity's face.
Neptune's Rose
11-30-2002, 08:23 PM
Thanx for your post tvfanatic. You always manage to put things into perspective :)
I would watch what I would call impossible as well. I would never say that a certain comic book's chance of succeeding was impossible, even if I thought its chances were slim :)
Larry
11-30-2002, 08:38 PM
I grant you that the concept may have had some flaws here and there but the heart and soul of it was in the right place for everyone to appreciate.
I agree. Birds Of Prey was in essence a concept about overcoming the odds and triumphing over diversity. After all, I think the overall story mainly has to do with Barbara's struggles more than the others and her ability to persevere. That in itself is pleasing to my sensibilities.
crazy_pete
12-01-2002, 02:27 AM
Good call on many of those post. I think this "syndacation" idea will probably work. But as Frostbite said..."no hope" when it comes to it staying on WB. Time to look for other channels and convince them. I'm not sure what's the best way to do this, but that's the best idea, I can think of. Please PM me to help me out!
Frostbite
12-01-2002, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by tvfanatic
putting a man on the moon, ending slavery, getting equal rights, organ transplants
Man on the moon? You actually believe that garbage? Ha!
Equal rights? If everything was equal, why isn't everyone bisexual? Why do we still have seperate bathrooms? Why don't they draft women into the army?
I've got nothing bad to say about organ transplants, those are fine and dandy, but I don't remember anyway saying that it wasn't possible.
Either way here, you're wrong.
Angel
12-01-2002, 01:44 PM
I'd love for the show to stay on. It's different and original. That's key to have a successful show.
Angel
Neptune's Rose
12-01-2002, 10:22 PM
Same here, there's too much crap on tv now...BoP is the only show next to ThePractice and Will&Grace that I seriously watch.
Ooooohhh, another Practice fan :)
SWEEEET :)
In answer to Frostbite:
Women getting the vote was thought an impossibility as well...but that changed now didn't it ;)
To Everyone Else except Frank and Frostbite:
Never give up hope, even the once thought impossible is possible...if the Wright Brothers and Chris Columbus (not the Home Alone guy :)) were alive today you could ask them ;)
Sxygrrl Huntress
12-03-2002, 06:04 AM
Like I said in a previous post on another thread, life does not allow us the luxury of everything being 100%. And miracles happen. Jordan Levin might become a buddist, move to Thailand and the next person in charge wants BoP on the air. Hey, you can't tell me that scenerio is 100% impossible... Extremely unlikely maybe, but not 100% impossible.
Frostbite, you were much funnier before - I miss that wit, please go back to that. Besides, I saw in your posts how excited you were about the recent outing of Gabby.
Just imagine the on-screen possibilities if this show stays on the air. Come on, I know you've got the visions in your head. I'd rather see it on screen than just in my imagination so stop arguing and let me fight for the show. You *know* you want us to win. You *know* you want to see "Dinah and Gabby".... so think about that the next time you post ;)
MethyLBroMidE
12-03-2002, 08:28 AM
Impossibility? Well. . .a frame of reference thing perhaps?
It's been almost 24 years now since a TV show called "Battlestar Galactica" last aired. If the Sci-Fi Channel (motive, viewers) and it's new parent Universal (partial rights) get their way, Galactica will finally be returning to television soon. So after 24 years of waiting, 2 Addams Family motion pictures, and seemingly countless Scooby-Doo revivals, thousands of geriatric fans may finally get their wish. It may not be what they expected, though, plus some of the original actors and production members have since passed away. . .
Why the struggle over a slim outcome? Maybe it's sort of like how newly hatched birds attach themselves upon the first moving thing they see, then proceed to follow it everywhere, like Grandma and Elvis. Or it could be a natural phase in the acceptance process, a quest for inner peace, a reciprocation of sorts. Or maybe it simply is what it is.
In light of the entire spectrum of other major efforts currently underway, Dark Angel, Farscape, Firefly, Roswell, Witchblade, etc., there’s nothing out-of-line about supporting a show with fresh episodes still left to air.
Links:
http://www.battlestargalactica.com
http://www.darkangeltv.com
http://www.darkangelfan.com
http://dafans.proboards9.com/index.cgi?board=S3
http://www.savefarscape.com
http://www.fox.com/firefly
http://www.fireflysupport.com
http://www2.warnerbros.com/web/witchblade/home.jsp
http://www.witchbladecentralstation.com
12/4 edit:
http://www.RoswellCRAVE.com
http://www.reviveRoswell.com
Neptune's Rose
12-03-2002, 10:49 AM
That is so true. As fans we are in a pretty damn good place to be fighting for our show. It still has eps. to air. And as methylbromide said, "there’s nothing out-of-line about supporting a show with fresh episodes still left to air". Keep Hope Alive!!
Frostbite
12-03-2002, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by sxygrrl
You *know* you want us to win. You *know* you want to see "Dinah and Gabby".... so think about that the next time you post ;)
Of course I want you to win. Of course I want to see Dinah and Gabby going out (or at least a one night stand). But I'm realistic. The show is canceled. It's like when you take someone's foot off and then eat it. They're never getting the foot back.
DizzyOracle
12-03-2002, 02:22 PM
interesting analogy
Neptune's Rose
12-03-2002, 02:27 PM
That analogy was kinda sick...
Frostbite
12-03-2002, 02:29 PM
It was a metaphor, actually. And what better way to illustrate a point than with cannilbalism?
Sxygrrl Huntress
12-03-2002, 05:49 PM
I'm realistic too.... but the point is, I'm wanting to fight against the odds for that slim chance I win... I know the situation... but I gotta try anyway...
Now *there's* that wit I enjoy. Keep that up! We like you better sassy :)
Jesse321
12-03-2002, 11:37 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again ... AS LONG AS THE SHOW IS ON THE AIR ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE !!:fume:
Sxygrrl Huntress
12-03-2002, 11:51 PM
Keep the faith Jesse! I'm totally with ya! I'm going to fight like hell! Gotta see my Huntress! Frostbite has to see his Gabby... and everyone else can see their Oracle ;)
DizzyOracle
12-04-2002, 12:06 AM
Hey, Oracle is the BEST! *snicker*
Helena Fan
12-04-2002, 12:54 AM
Originally posted by MethyLBroMidE
Impossibility? Well. . .a frame of reference thing perhaps?
It's been almost 24 years now since a TV show called "Battlestar Galactica" last aired. If the Sci-Fi Channel (motive, viewers) and it's new parent Universal (partial rights) get their way, Galactica will finally be returning to television soon. So after 24 years of waiting, 2 Addams Family motion pictures, and seemingly countless Scooby-Doo revivals, thousands of geriatric fans may finally get their wish. It may not be what they expected, though, plus some of the original actors and production members have since passed away. . .
Why the struggle over a slim outcome? Maybe it's sort of like how newly hatched birds attach themselves upon the first moving thing they see, then proceed to follow it everywhere, like Grandma and Elvis. Or it could be a natural phase in the acceptance process, a quest for inner peace, a reciprocation of sorts. Or maybe it simply is what it is.
In light of the entire spectrum of other major efforts currently underway, Dark Angel, Farscape, Firefly, Witchblade, etc., there’s nothing out-of-line about supporting a show with fresh episodes still left to air.
Links:
http://www.battlestargalactica.com
http://www.darkangeltv.com
http://www.darkangelfan.com
http://dafans.proboards9.com/index.cgi?board=S3
http://www.savefarscape.com
http://www.fox.com/firefly
http://www.fireflysupport.com
http://www2.warnerbros.com/web/witchblade/home.jsp
http://www.witchbladecentralstation.com
The comparison with Battlestar Galactica is a very appropriate one. Also,don't forget that Sci-Fi Channel is also working on bringing back Quantum Leap (which has been off the air for close to a decade itself) and I heard somewhere that USA was planning on reviving the Bionic Woman which went off the air around the time Galactica did!
Also, I do have to make a couple of additions to your link list. Both of these links (surprise!) deal with campaigns to revive the Roswell TV series
http://www.RoswellCRAVE.com
http://www.reviveRoswell.com \\\
Best wishes,
Scott
MethyLBroMidE
12-04-2002, 12:31 PM
Roswell acknowledged. And thank you! :blush:
I recall stumbling across a magazine article somewhere about the evolution of consumerism.
How consumers first started out having little choice, like Ford and his Model T, "You can have any color as long as it's black."
Then later, having lots of choices, with marketers finding out what was hot, and consumers passively buying what they liked.
To today, with consumers being savvy enough now to take more proactive roles themselves in satisfying their own needs, when corporate interests alone fail to deliver.
Perhaps some of this is rubbing off on TV now.
Neptune's Rose
12-04-2002, 03:10 PM
I didn't know Witchblade had something going on. That show was great. I still don't understand why it was cancelled. At least with BoP there is a slim chance i can do something. Keep Hope Alive folks hang in there. It won't be much longer...
Well as someone else said another thing to do is look at the companies that run commercials during BoP such as Target and others.
And we have to make sure the media knows about our BoP fight. It gives media coverage to BoP. Shows fans watch it and negative advertisement is not something I think the WB would want.
Can't wait to see our new campaign by the way.
Gothic Knight
12-04-2002, 09:06 PM
That's a good point Kea.
Phantess
12-04-2002, 10:47 PM
I'm keeping up hope-because to throw in the towel is letting the Wb getting away with it. They've screwed a lot of Anne Rice fans over, the only people they're keeping happy is the Harry Potter group. I would have hoped they would have taken care of this show a lot better than they did.
They're fixing to get one heck of a fight from me about this. :P
witchbladejar
12-05-2002, 12:05 AM
I believe in the Birds of Prey! I fought hard sending in letters to DC Comics to make BOP a monthly book. I have been a huge fan since the first one shot book was published around 1995/96.
Now that a tv series has been created, many new BOP fans are backing this great concept! BOP # 1 was published in 1999 and on its cover it stated "Because You Demanded IT".
BOP fans stood as a unit years ago and we can do it again! Don't give up and keep sending in letters even if the last episode airs. It is never too late and together we can change this great shows fate.
Helena Fan
12-05-2002, 12:11 AM
Originally posted by MethyLBroMidE
Roswell acknowledged. And thank you! :blush:
I recall stumbling across a magazine article somewhere about the evolution of consumerism.
How consumers first started out having little choice, like Ford and his Model T, "You can have any color as long as it's black."
Then later, having lots of choices, with marketers finding out what was hot, and consumers passively buying what they liked.
To today, with consumers being savvy enough now to take more proactive roles themselves in satisfying their own needs, when corporate interests alone fail to deliver.
Perhaps some of this is rubbing off on TV now.
You're welcome. And thank you:D !
Best wishes,
Scott
Welcome Witchbladejar :D
It's always great to hear from someone else who believes in the show :) We can save it as long as we're willing to try :) You're right the show is worth saving :)
Jesse321
12-06-2002, 03:56 PM
Hear Hear !!!
KEEP THE BIRDS FLYING !!!
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